Article in Saakshi
Here is the translated article published in Saakshi newspaper that summarizes some of my views on United Andhra Pradesh:
http://www.sakshi.com/main/WeeklyDetails.aspx?Newsid=52750&Categoryid=1&subcatid=18
Save Andhra Pradesh!
Nalamotu Chakravarthy
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Tags: Andhra, apnri, kosta, nri, rayalaseema, saakshi, seema, separatism, Telangana, Telugu
Chakravarthy garu,
I must thank you for all the efforts you are putting in to counter all the lies and hate propaganda spread by seperatists.
I think many other newpapers need to publish your views, also do lots of genuine research and write their views strongly, after all they are all supposedly responsible organizations which have garnered trust, reliability from the public.
Even the TV media need to do some research on their own and open up genuine discussions about the so called looting, blaming and other lies spread by seperatists.
Unfortunately, TV media just plays a news/views broker and opens up fake fights between corrupt politicians about who is cheating the public, which is disgustingly funny.
I don't know, why the TV News media and print media with all their so called world class journalists, cannot do the research that many common people have done. If they have done, why don't they take the initiative in leading the public towards the truth?
Also most importantly
We need an extensive program, something like open discussions, meetings, sessions with the public thru out AP, where we can tour whole of AP and counter all the lies and blaming and prove them wrong. May this is too far streched but that is the NEED OF THE HOUR!!!
Also the development that telangana has acheived over the past 50 years can be discussed and the seperatists can be proved wrong in their blame of discrimination and also that, in some cases telangana has developed at the cost of costa/seema's loss esp. industrial growth.
This will raise the morale of the common public in costa/seema so that they can stand up confidently and fight against the seperatists and their wild accusations and blaming and seperatism and also protect themselves.
On the other hand, there is a large base of population in telagana who are not strongly in favor of telagana state but they are not in a position to open up as they are threatened by the violent seperatists. These people will also gain some confidence and morale in resisting the bullism of the seperatists.
Also the common people of telagana, who can think sensibly(not extremistly), will give this blaming/accusing a second thought.
Those seperatists who have been coached by KCR and TRS intelligentsia for several years now may also give this whole blaming/accusing saga, a second thought.
Here's a nugget of information about another 'Telangana' in Andhra Pradesh which most of us probably didn't bother to know .Banaganapalli now in Kurnool district existed as a sovereign princely state during the British rule and was administered by a Nawab. The area is around 660 Sq Miles.It was merged into India after the Nawab signed the instrument of accession in Feb 1948. Will the central government grant Statehood to Banaganapalli since it existed as a separate state and if the people of that area fight for 'demerger' of the state with Andhra Pradesh. Like Hyderabad state Urdu was the official language of the state and the people can claim culture of their own and can even say that merger with Madras and Andhra later has destroyed their culture …
Mr Jagan, You are very much right about the fake fight show every day between corrupt politicians in TV. But unfortunately in india there is hardly any media which is exclusively for news. Present whatever news channels are all for gossips, entertainment and brainwashing.
BUT i feel we can cleverly use such media to take "united AP" message.
I feel, common sense says, when people are in confusion regarding partiality in govt spending, then govts immediately respond by revealing the true details to avoid dangerous situations from arising.
In AP we have a department called "information and public relation". If you look at their duties, exactly this is what they need to do. Immediately reveal the true details. Unfortuantely they just keep quite. People like Nalamotu garu or JP or others have to request information or people like us try hard to catch online research journals. But, this departments keeps mum and remains as a spectator watching the fights.
I feel we all need to solve the present problem, and "reduce" the influence of separatists agenda as much as possible.
One is
1. Fact finding. Which is already done.
2. Second is taking these facts strongly into people.
3. Third is how to counter the least possible situations, if unthinkable happens regarding
the division of AP.
One of the obvious strategies for the above, second point is , reverse brainwashing.
Whatever separatists have been doing, just do the same thing in reverse.
We need lots of videos for this. Videoos interviewing old people in telangana vilages explaining how their village was in very olden days and how they got benifitted in AP.
Projecting the earlier feudal systems and how present advanced AP got rid of those sick practises.
ANother one is separating telangana from TRS. This one seems already is being done by political parties(Even though they do this for their vested interests).
I feel presently the misguided talangana telugus are slowly digesting the other side of the story. Coming by elections will be very important in reducing the separatism concept.
Most importantly, we need to hunt for more stategies. Till this year end, personaly i dont think i can keep my hands away from "doing something" to keep AP united.
@ Deccani that was a useful tip!
EVER SINCE KCR HAS SAID HE FUNDED AND TRAINED THE STUDENTS WITH LAKHS OF MONEY, ALL GUNS HAVE GONE SILENT! NOT JUST ON THIS SITE BUT EVERY WHERE. Every one is shocked as to why KCR revealed the secret so quickly. I have written many times that I live close to the OU area and I am a witness to these meetings and training sessions. Also, the same coaching was imparted to employees as well.
I strongly believe that KCR has been asked by the higher powers to undo the damage he caused. As part of that, he has revealed that he funded the student movement. He is also planning to visit Vijayawada. I wonder what he would say there. Is he going to repeat the statement that Andhra people looted Telengana?
AMRAO garu….i have been following your comments right from the beginning. Seems you are right. Infact we always discussed that the students are paid students working to fulfill TRS objectives. And the leader himself revealed it. Hope this statement will be noted by justice Sri krishna.
Now KCR coming to vijayawada is i feel he has fallen in to a trap. I request the leaders, professionals and comman people from vijayawada surroundings to be with utmost patience and dignity. We need to cleverly use this opportunity.
But there is problem also. If none of them says anything against KCR, when he arrives, then TRS might say, nobody objected there and seemandhra people are favourable for telangana state. Such rediculous arguments also will be heard. Believe me , unfortunately there are people who support such arguments in my telangana area!!.
I feel an exemplery behaviour by the vijayawada crowd will be a real eye opener . But still we need to find a balance between these two. Cordial invitation /hospitality VS showing displeasure by banners.
Chandra garu, Thanks for your support. As you explained so clearly, a balance is required during his trip to Vijayawada. I guess KCR is counting on some nuisance to flare up the passions again.
Please check this important following video, a discussion on HMTV by irrigation experts of AP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwJeTgeVX8U&feature=related
This is several parts.
Chandra,
I have watched the dasa disa program on HMTV this sunday. Good that you put the link up here.
Atleast people who think rationally would understand the discrimination to telangana in Irrigation. I have tried to argue this case with chakravarthy garu in this blog before on nagarjun Sagarm but he would not get the point.
Chakravarthy Garu,
You have watch dasa disa program of Jalavadam and give your opinion. The people here are no politicians, they definetely are not from TRS. They are all experts in that feild and have seen and things cleearly. Hence they definetely know facts and realities better than you and me.
For that matter My father works in Inrrigation department, and he clearly vouches for discrimination in this feild. Infact there are scores of other irrigation expert who say the same.
The videos show clearly that even the seemandhra irrigation experts agree that there has been discrimination. What do u have say on this. With this kind of discrimination do people have right to ask for integrated state?
Karthik garu,
What I saw in the debate is government neglect everywhere. I saw Rayalaseema people being bitter about their projects being neglected. I saw Uttara Andhra people being bitter about their projects being neglected. I saw Nizam engineers bitter about their projects neglected.
In the case of Nagarjuna Sagar it was clear how facts were being distorted. They talked about how gate sizes have been manipulated between the left and right canal. When the fact remains that between 1997 and 2007 right canal canal received 1683 TMC and the left canal received 1526 TMC.
In the year 2000-2002 both left and right canals used much more than their allocated 132 TMC while not releasing water to Krishna barrage. So should Krishna delta people claim that upstream Kosta and Nizam areas looted them? (look at Table-11 on my website)
Then one of the esteemed engineer says that Nagarjun Sagar releases water for power generation and that flows down to Krishna barrage which is used in the delta. Apparently, this is evidence of outright discrimination. So what does the engineer want to do, release the water into the ocean?
They then complained about crafty kosta engineers manipulated gates of the canals. Nobody wanted to listen to the elderly engineer who tried to explain the reasons. If in fact gates were designed to deliver less water, how come both the canals are getting equal amount of water (see table-11 on my website)?
Then there is an engineer who talked about how one lift irrigation got two pipes, while they got none. Based on the reasons given, I can easily guess it was done to help out the contractor who probably handsomely bribed the irrigation officials.
I have said time and again, irrigation sector has suffered due to government neglect. Mahabubnagar suffered due to RBS pilferation. No matter how you look at it Jurala, Inchampally, Nizamsagar should be a priority- but there are genuine challenges with regards to submergence for the former two projects. These projects in my view are far more important than Polavaram. I am sure people from other regions might not agree with me. So, let us work these out in a democratic fashion. I also think we should scrap all lift irrigation projects. I am almost certain that in the long run they will all be scrapped anyway due to high cost associated with running them. More importantly, we should restore tank irrigation to where it was a few hundred years ago.
I have no doubt in my mind that there are incidents where people from Ceded or Circar tried to help their own region. I am sure such incidents exist in Nizam area too. However, the best gauge to assess discrimination is how much money has been spent on irrigation by region and how many additional acres have been brought under irrigation. I am sorry, but numbers do not back up claims of large-scale methodical discrimination of one region or another.
I look at the issue of separation from all development angles. It is clear that Nizam region developed at a faster pace than Circar or Ceded districts since the State formation. If you look at pure GDP, agriculture output, education, industries, roads, employment, power utilization and the list goes on.
Once again, there may be incidents of discrimination. However, they are nowhere close to the kind of mass hysteria being created by the separatists.
It was painful to watch the video and see the extent to which separatists have poisoned people's minds. Every expert, irrespective of region, said they wanted to separate and not one stood for unity.
Chakravarthy gaaru, I am adding little more to your reply.
2004-05)1788.19crores (05-06)3469.12cr (06-07)1343.80 6601.11
Please find the report of the CRIDA (Central Research Institute For Dryland Agriculture) at http://crida.ernet.in/DRM2-Winter%20School/BMKR-KSR.pdf
According to the report, the budget allocations to various regions is like below:
Telangana
share from the total allocation (66%)
Andhra: (04-05)754.24 Cr (05-06)1874cr (06-07) 302 Cr
Share: 24.38%
Rayalaseema: (04-05) 788 cr (05-06) 1225 cr (06-07) 275 cr
Now karthik, can u say where discrimination is going on?
one should understand that, before the reforms happen and we enter into the global economy, all Indian states are poor and verymuch short of funds. So they have to heavily depend on center's funds.
This is what the elderly man in the debate is about to explain. Infact, it is not only SRSP, but projects like jhanjhavati in northern andhra also pending from more than 35 years. There was no compensation paid to people who lost everything to seeleru project . such pitiable stories are everywhere across the state.
The person who started the discussion ( i think sana maruthi garu), said in the middle of the discussion that 'ppl need not think that central water commission is not a great independent body'. it is just hand made of parties with lot of political influence. Then why every now and then T-seperatists quote CWC reports. if something is favourable to the seperatists agenda then CWC appears to be given a genuine report, but if something against to them then CWC is nothing but political body.
I didnt understand everyone saying powerful ppl from godavari dists. who is such powerful people who couldnt get a better portfolia neither in state nor in central.
Karthik,
You are asking people to think rationally to understand the descrimination. In the same video one person said even 70 TMCs of water was never released through left canal till today. Now you can understand how rational these people are by looking at the tables chakravarthy garu provided on left and right canal.
can anyone think a small enginner from andhra can influence a telangana minister or rayalaseema chief minister to make a decision that is favourable to andhra region? If so, why not the telangana ministers reveal the facts?
Everyone is taking as if polavaram is almost complete and other telangana projects are still pending? I bet it will take atleast 20 years to fulfill polavaram into reality.
For T -seperates they are not getting a single acre irrigated from <a href="http://www.aponline.gov.in/apportal/departments/departments.asp?dep=20&org=256&category=about">Sriram sagar</a> project but andhra projects are close to completion.
see <a href="http://www.irrigation.ap.gov.in/Village%20Ayacut_formatted_24.10.2007.xls">here</a> the new ayacut contemplated during 2004-07 and if you go thru the details as per the data, it is
andhra region got 477646
telangana – 476479
rayalaseema – 57768
There is a bull-shit word that everybody from telangana, also some seemandhra words use
sometimes is 'Costa lobbying'. Who are those powerful people to lobby for costa region?
people say kavuri, Rayapati, x, y, z etc.. These fellows who couldn't even get a deputy
minister post at center, and couldn't communicate properly for 5 mins (in any language) can
raise their cause at center?
The costa lobbying is just a buzz word to throw the mud on those. They also say these people
earn crores because they have great water resources etc is also another myth. Infact, there
are no such powerful leaders in costa who can put their case above Seema or telangana. If we
see, the only Congress CM from costa after 30 yrs is Rosaih and everyone how powerful he is,
who came through loop line fearing of loosing the ballot.
The majority of CMs, Contenders for the post and powerful portfolios are from Seema and
Telangana is a fact. Also Most of telangana leaders have good influence over high-command.
Despite YSRs all efforts people like madhu yashki are able to get the ticket for 2nd time.
I am not saying costa politicians are innocent or not corrupt etc.. They are equally as
much like their T brothern.
I just want to put the point i that everyone will do lobbying for their region and there is
nothing like if T- leaders did – then they are doing/fighting it genuinely and if others do
then they are lobbying with money etc..
There is a bull-shit word that everybody from telangana, also some seemandhra words use
sometimes is 'Costa lobbying'. Who are those powerful people to lobby for costa region?
people say kavuri, Rayapati, x, y, z etc.. These fellows who couldn't even get a deputy
minister post at center, and couldn't communicate properly for 5 mins (in any language) can
raise their cause at center?
The costa lobbying is just a buzz word to throw the mud on those. They also say these people
earn crores because they have great water resources etc is also another myth. Infact, there
are no such powerful leaders in costa who can put their case above Seema or telangana. If we
see, the only Congress CM from costa after 30 yrs is Rosaih and everyone how powerful he is,
who came through loop line fearing of loosing the ballot.
The majority of CMs, Contenders for the post and powerful portfolios are from Seema and
Telangana is a fact. Also Most of telangana leaders have good influence over high-command.
Despite YSRs all efforts people like madhu yashki are able to get the ticket for 2nd time.
I am not saying costa politicians are innocent or not corrupt etc.. They are equally as
much like their T brothern.
I just want to put the point i that everyone will do lobbying for their region and there is
nothing like if T- leaders did – then they are doing/fighting it genuinely and if others do
then they are lobbying with money etc…