Professor Kodandaram is the Convener of the Joint Action Committee that is spearheading the current separatist movement. In his article titled “Telangana Marginalised” he claims that in Nizam’s
The undeniable truth is that we were a colony under Nizam who sucked the blood out of poor peasants. Four thousand men and women who lost their lives fighting Nizam are the reminders of that atrocious rule.
Sri Raavi Narayana Reddy, was one of the prominent leaders who led the peasants against Nizam. According to Sri Reddy, taxation in the
If this oppressive taxation was not enough, there was the system of vetti which was a form of slavery. Vetti wreaked havoc on the people of Nizam Telangana. Sri Puchalapally Sundarayya, who hailed from Kosta and fought for the peasants of Nizam Telangana, wrote: “The vetti system had made the life of the Telangana people one of utter degradation and of abject serfdom. It had ruined man’s self-respect completely….”
Sadly, Professor Kodandaram does not mind demonizing his fellow Telugus, yet he shows no hesitation to sugar-coat Nizam’s rule by saying that the region was doing well in agriculture and industrial development.
Let’s move on to the statistical data that the Professor offers as evidence of “colonization” of Nizam Telangana.
Professor Kodandaram wrote: “The irrigation policies illustrate the discrimination against Telangana…AP gave high priority to irrigation… As a consequence net irrigated area increased from 27.47 lakh hectares to 55 lakh hectares between 1955-56 and 2001-02.”
The gross area under irrigation in our state in 1956 was 32 lakh hectares. As of 2005-2006, that number stands at 60 lakh hectares. In other words, we brought 28 additional lakh hectares under irrigation. Out of these 28 lakh hectares, 15 lakhs are in the Nizam Telangana area, 10 lakh hectares in the Kosta area, and 3 lakh hectares in the Rayalaseema area.
Is this what Professor Kodandaram offers as evidence of discrimination?
Professor Kodandaram further wrote: “A lion’s share, 90 per cent, in the public expenditure on irrigation was allocated for major and medium irrigation and minor irrigation received only 10 per cent of the allocation. This policy has resulted in the decline of the minor irrigation particularly tank irrigation and consequently the net area under tank irrigation declined from 10.68 lakh hectares to 5.67 lakh hectares between 1955-56 and 2001-02. In contrast the net area irrigated by canals has gone up from 12.92 lakh hectares to 15 lakh hectares between 1955-56 and 2001-2002. The deterioration of the tank irrigation system has an adverse affect on Telangana more than the other regions because tanks have been the backbone of Telangana agriculture. Further, the loss of the area under the tank irrigation has not been compensated by allocation of river waters.”
Let us look at Canal irrigation first. In 1956, when the united state came into existence, we had 12.9 lakh hectares under canal irrigation. Despite all the government investments into canal irrigation, as of 2005-06 that number stands at 15.7 lakh hectares. In other words, we brought an additional 2.8 lakh hectares of land under canal irrigation. Of these 2.8 lakh hectares, 1.5 lakh hectares are in the Nizam Telangana area, about 70 thousand hectares in Kosta, and about 60 thousand hectares in Rayalaseema.
Is this what Professor Kodandaram offers as evidence of colonization?
Professor Kodandaram’s argument about abject neglect of tanks in the Nizam Telangana region and how farmers are relying on bore-wells are valid. However, let us not forget that the losses to the Rayalaseema region in tank irrigation are much steeper than Nizam Telangana. Ironically, half our state’s chief ministers hailed from Rayalaseema.
In 1956 Nizam Telangana had 4.5 lakh hectares under tank irrigation, and as of 2005-06 that stands at 2.5 lakh hectares, a 43% drop. In Rayalaseema at the time of state formation 1.6 lakh hectares were under tank irrigation and as of 2005-06, mere 81,000 acres is under tank irrigation- a drop of over 50%. So, were the chief ministers hailing from Rayalaseema discriminating against their own region?
Professor Kodandaram wrote: “Nearly 60 per cent of the net area irrigated under canals is located in these four districts and the balance 40 per cent is shared by the other 18 districts.”
The Professor conveniently forgets to mention one important fact. These four Kosta districts had all that area under canal irrigation for nearly 100 years before our state even came into existence. That is because of the Dowleswaram and
Professor Kodandaram wrote: “…If the (Gentlemen’s) agreement were to be seriously implemented all the schemes proposed by the
There is no verbiage in the Gentlemen’s agreement that indicates Nizam Telangana would get 1000 TMC of water. Lastly to Jalayagnam- doesn’t irrigation minister Ponnala Lakshmaiah hail from
In conclusion, we in Nizam Telangana should fight for every rightful drop of Krishna and
Save Andhra Pradesh!
Nalamotu Chakravarthy
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Kudos to you, Chakravarthy. This is voice that is missing in current political turmoil If this sane voice is percolated among the youth , I am sure there could have atleast few 10's of lives saved. What a shame , these people call and act as professors , who show utter disregard to atmosphere they create .
What for all these lies and abetment of inncocent people to death and destruction? A few powerful position in post conflict ? One thing for sure the ancesstors of this land must be turning in their grave to new "Sons of the soil".
Chakravarthy gaaru,
Telangana intellectuals have reached situation where even a faulty tap will be blamed on andhra people. These people refuse to consider the unfavourable geography of Telangana for backwardness.I have to pity them.
Bhanu Prasad,
if you think you are the most intellectual Andhrite and all the Telanagnites are just blaming Andhra for all ill happenings and and if you feel Telanagana Geography is favaourable to backwardness and what ever you can say.
I just have simple question to you,Why do you want to stay in Telengana…why dont you just go away. If Telengana gets seperated no one will balme you and you can rename your state as Intellectuals state are what ever you feel like
Hai brother,let's take the speech or words in a positive way.For the political leaders it's money and money,it's not true that Telengana should not be developed by its geographic the political language is different and the common people langauage is different.Straight point is if our land ,country,state ,people should develop is we should voting to these double standard politicians.Telengana is an important issue and it should be solved also.But when the state is formed who are the sufferers it's the common people .It's these politicians who taken this issue to the heights and made it explode.As a true citizen of this country every one should develop it's not like destroying any area.
I would like to add one more point. Tank irrigation was dependant on ground water, and due to increased population etc., the groundwater has depleted. No human technology available can replenish the ground water.
The tank irrigation doesn't require ground water, but its is borewell or well iirgation that requires ground water, But you are right that the tank rrigation of yester yeras may not support current expanded lands. However new farming techniques such as drip irrigation and less paddy but more of other grains and pulses that requires less water may be the way to go to. Most improtantly don't copy what some of the four districts of Kosta are doing.
Mr Chakravarthy ,
I appriciate your effort and time for pulling ut these facts . Separatists use the figures for their convienince with out any logic . They always take the current figures like 4 koasal districts are getting more and not others . No one can help here as it is tru that Dowleswaram and Krishna barrages built by Sir Arthur Cotton and happened before 100years of united AP formed . Though the separatists know it by they hide it in their wrtite ups and making people fools .
Chakravarthy gaaru,
Thank you for your efforts in bringing out the truth. So much hatred is being spread in the name of Telangana. We need intellectuals like you to step up to save our state.
You should consider contacting mainstream media and 'United Andhra' JACs to make your voice heard all over AP. If you do that , Telugu people will be forever in debt of you.
People who call this movement a separatist movement
can have a look at this blog which presents this issue
more broadly..
http://www.sujaiblog.blogspot.com
it got 348654 hits till now and still going strong.
Sandeep,
What is the use of a blog when the blog writer says 'I am not here to answer your questions".
His blog lot dangerous than KCR's threats. Its purpose is to spread the hatred than meaningful discussions.
Some non-Telugu people, who are anxiously waiting for the breakup of AP, are fishing in troubled waters by polluting the environment through their writings. The person referred to as above seems to belong to this category.
It represents issue "broadly"?
In the latest post the author has called all andhrites as criminals…And to boot with it has the same statistics which Mr.Chakravarthy demolished so clinically.
The author being a nonTelugu naturally doesn't know Telugu history. It is news to him that long ago people of Telangana were also called Andhras. The term obviously is not reserved for non-Telangana people but for all Telugu speaking people.
Mr Nallamuthu,
You might have deleted my comments, there are so many distortions in your analysis.
Here are some more.
1. When you are taking number of students as a data point, this includes students going to private schools and colleges. So this cannot be taken as GOVT aided funding. Hence your data point is wrong. You should look at number of Govt schools and colleges, which Prof Jayashankar explains cleraly. Infact he puts up data Govt aided institutions as well.
2. Regarding literacy rate data point. The question, what has been Govt of AP contribution in improving the literacy rate here. It is a well known fact that people can become literate by going to private institutions. Hence your analysis is not correct.
3. Please mention one major irrigation project that has been completed in Telangana region after formation of AP, that supports your data on land brought under irrigation. there are about 6 projects that i claim that have been completed in seemandhra. Now the question is without any major project being constructed, how has the land under irrigation increased. Hence u have manipulated the data.
I know u would delete the last post, hence i used the last sentence in that post. If you sincerely believe that All telugu should be united, please reply to this post. otherwise u have no right to say "Save Andhra Pradesh"
Mr. Sampath, Name one project that is Constructed after AP formation in Coastal Andhra region.
–So this cannot be taken as GOVT aided funding–
Why are you so particular about GOVT funding?. Don't you consider, as your intellectuals, private investment as progress?. Author is comparing over all development. What matters is the number of students attending these educational institutions. Not who funded them.Telangana has one of the best universities IIIT, NIT, IIT Medak, HCU etc.,. So there is no real comparision in education.
–Now the question is without any major project being constructed, how has the land under irrigation increased–
Again, Development is also possible through small scale irrigation projects.
Bhanu Prasad Garu,
Please remember, the fight of telangana is a fight against the Govt of AP and seemaandhra leaders. Hence, it is not out of context, to bring in Govt aided funding in education. Again this is important becuase every govt school created aids in increasing the literacy of children who are Below poverty line. BPL families cannot afford to send their children to pvt schools. Alternatively, when a Govt school is setup in a region, it also creates jobs in the form of teachers etc. The same is with case with degree colleges.
Although your argument that telangana has IIT, NIT, IIT, HCU etc looks good, but please remember that these are not solely meant for people of telangana. (This also right, as everyone from state/country have equal right on central institutions). Please remember that Rangareddy district does not have one gov degree collges where as krishna and guntur have more than 20 "govt" degree college. How fair is this?
Do u know that all the small scale and large scale irrigation projects planned by erst while Hyderbad govt have been shelved. i will reply to other post with the name of the projects also. So how is this fair?
Sampath garu,
I hail from Krishna dst HQ Machilipatnam. 20 years ago there were as many as 40 educational institutions, starting from elementary school to Engineering college. Of these 20 were govt/aided, 10 were run by Christian groups and rest are private.
Today there is virtually one institution per street starting from a Nursary to Law college.
But there is no single addition to govt/aided institution. Some of the govt schools were closed down. Aided schools became private schools charging more fees from students.
I do not see it as govt. failure or descrimination but people's eagerness to get educated whether govt supports it or not.
In another post you said "It is a well known fact that people can become literate by going to private institutions." It throws another question, how can you say Telangana is backward when it could afford private education and improve literacy?
You may laugh but today education is a good economy in my town. With so much literarcy in Telangan why basic economy is not improving?
Do you know that all these colleges were private before Govt. took over control. AP Govt. has not started even one college in Coastal or ceded regions. They were all private institutions. The same is true in case of Tela naadu also. Mention one college started by Govt. in Telanaadu. All colleges were started by groups of gentlemen of those regions. These were later on taken over by Govt. If there is no college in Ranga Reddy district, note that the district itself was not there. It is an artificial creation. Did you see any district around another district like a donut. It was Hyderabad district. How many colleges are there even now in any of the districts of Telanadu. Mainly in district headquarters. So is the case with Hyderabad.
Anycase if one wants to study, where will they go to. To a Hyderabad college or College in his town. Definitely Hyderabad. Who went to college anyway. Feudal Lords Sons. Why will he go to a Local college. He goes to Patnam. Dora koduku patnam botunnadu saduvukoniki.
Of all the very rude rubbish Mr Sampath writes here (in an obsessive manner I have observed among several t separatists) I found this of particular interest
"The question, what has been Govt of AP contribution in improving the literacy rate here. It is a well known fact that people can become literate by going to private institutions"
Quiet clearly Mr Sampath does not care about actual literacy rate but about how much money has been extracted from tax payers in EVERY field he has an interest. Its quiet in gel with the common hope of t separatists – the endless rent seeking oppurtunities from andhra businessmen that a separate t state might throw up. Such people may make good businessmen(of the sneaky variety) but should stay clear from public affairs where morality , principles etc are important.
I am only reffering to data points presented by the Mr Chakravarthy. If he would presented data on the number of Govt schools and teachers employed as an addedum to the literacy data point, that would have clearly brought out the point. Is this not logical enough Mr Kiran.
Kiran,
The Telangana movement is all about inequalities in development. Its very clear that Govt development happens through tax payers money. But does a 'moral' Govt have the right to show disparity in development. Hence i agree with Mr Sampath's point. Mr Chakravarthy needs to clarify on this.
Come out of your frustration and think logically. Cant comment on business acumen on telanganites, but i am sure they will be better in ''moral" and "principles" than the those "few" land grabbing andhrites.
Raghu,
Don't classify all people of a region as good or bad, with morals or without morals or principles or as land grabbers. There will be good and bad in all regions, all communities and all countries at and at all times. Don't spread hatred. Spread love, spread peace.
Who grabbed whose lands. There are 6 crore Andhra people living in Seema and Coastal regions. There are 4 crore Andhra people living in Telengana Region. If Andhras grabbed lands in Telengana why are they still living in Coastal and Seema districts. And how come the 4 crore Telengana people have not disappeared into thin air. If one person sells his land and another purchases it how does it become land grabbing.
Mr Sampath,
Nalimotu presented many data points and arguements – Why do you pick over some data point and obsess about it ? Does it not reveal a litigation mentality ? Infact many of t separatists have this litigation mentality over many things – gentlemens agreement for eg. many of the provisions were implemented – one or two at one or two locations may not have been implemented. And remember gentlemens agreement is not a legal contract but the promise of a politicians. If we look at the track record of implementations of politicians promises gentlemen's agreement was exceedingly well implemented. But again like litigatious lawyer you obsess over one particular point.
Such mentality can never build a proper state or a society. TO build requires a large heart which t separatists have persistently shown not to posess. Mr Nalimotu presented improvements in literacy and enrollement in telangana which were significantly higher than other regions. Both are UN accepted paramaters for "development" – you dont contest it but like a bitter lawyer obsess over govt. schools and funding and money…what are schools for if not for literacy and enrollement. Again you have not presented any data yourself but belive you are entitled to speak insultingly to Mr Nalimotu who has clearly taken considerable efforts to present his picture. Clearly Mr Sampath, your points and approach is not good enough.
Sampathji,
Let us all forget about the figures talking by Leaders or Mr Chakra for a moment. Just a simple question if you are from any village, do you know how much money the village got allocated in the last 5 years. Okay if you are not from any village definitely you are from some constituency, do you know how much your constancy got in the last 5 years. Did you try to check them? Or at least does KCR or any leader on the earth showed “ see my constituency people this is the money we got in the last 5 years and this is where we spent “ . A BIG NO. Surprisingly nobody asks. I am from Telanagana , let us all go to our village leaders or Our MLA’s or MP’s and ask them “ Could you please show the proofs for amount allocated in your term and how you spent it “ If you get proper answer let us think about separate moment. We don’t know how much they spent on the road in front of your house, but we are interested in state level funds and figures ?
Sorry if I hurt you.
good say!!!
Telangana's Irrigation projects are unfeasible economically. So they have been put on backburner. And Sriram sagar project is delayed as it involves large areas being submerged in Maharashtra. Telanganites must realize that not all regions are same and it is futile to expect their land to be similar to Kosta,
If projects are unfeaseable economically, why has the govt started these projects!! If you are argument holds true, are all ur politicians and beaurocrats that foolish. You have to explain this point. This is another reason Telanagana should be seperated. If dont begrudge your land, we are are only asking for our share of water. Waiting for sampath to respond.
Great site. I really appreciate in depth analysis on development on different regions of Andhra Pradesh. Would it be possible to bring this type of analysis to our so called media discussion. Media houses should invite experts like you Instead of inviting politicians who lead pitbull fights. We should have some sane analysis on regions development.
For GOOD, Yes I agree with your opinion Ravi.
This website is too good person from telangana writing facts about the state.
Ramesh garu,
I removed your other comment on Professor Kodandaram. I have a simple rule for the web-site. You are free to comment on anything and everything, as long as you restrain from using bad words.
Kiran,
What nonsense are u speaking. "Litigation Mentality". where is the connection to what sampath has written to what u are saying. The real litigation people are your stupid samikyavadi leaders. They are the one who are responsible for this mess. KCR has always said onething. Why is is that all the parties in seemandhra have accepeted for a seperate state when they knew all this "wrong data" shown by Mr chankravarthy. They only wanted votes from telanagana people and hence are true "litigation masters". It is now in open the true colours of seemandhra politicians. Telangana people are betrayed by the seemandhra politicians and hence where is the reason for people of telanagana to beleive these leaders. KCR is has always said the same thing. The people telangana now beleive in him. When you have not spoken for 9 years, what right all of u have to speak now!!
Karthik,
The same KCR in AP assembly requested to remove zonal system in AP!(Check youtube video clip).
WIth your same logic, how can you believe Telangana politicians who never spoke about injustice being doine to telangana for 50 years and suddenly and violently reacting to it?
Guys,
Here is another "Lagadapati" and "Devineni Uma". I cant see any logic in his argument, only senseless talk.!! God only save Mr Kiran
Why polavaram ? there are already 2 crops yield for one year in andhra Here in telangana not even one crop per year yield. Build the dams here in telangana first and then concentrate on polavaram .. First concentrate on zuraala, ichampalli and nizam sagar (proposed in early 50's). for the one crop an year. Not a 3rd crop…..
Allocation of funds for universities started at same time
Yogi vemana(Kadapa)-236crores
Shatavahana(karimnagar)-1.6 crore ..
Answer the above questions first then fight for Samikya andhra
The River Godavari is a river of Plains. There is a drop of 10 ft for every Km in the region of Telanadu. Near Polavarm, it encounters Hills and passes through them with a fall of more than 100 ft in a short distance. This plans were made by British even before any-one was born in Telanaadu to freedom. The idea is to create a dam to generate Power, and use that power for Lift throught the previous run of the river in Telanadu lifting the water above the required level.
The Telanadu so called Medhavi Engineers proposition is to construct weeirs / barragres across the river at many places on the river. What they from this. It is their theory that water will be filled to these 10 ft, and then can flow to the succeeding land down.
It is very intelligent scheme. Please go ahead and do the same. Polavarma will work as power house for Coastal districts as well as flood-control for them.
Now for your info, no one wants water for the first crop. When it rains so heavily and floods-up why do they require water for their first crop.
So three crops of Coastal region are same as two crops in Telanadu region. Any case where do you think the produce goes.
From Telangana people are going to Middle East, Mumbai and other places…as a Bonded Labour,
especially the Labour life is Terrible in the Middle East..you cant see any labour from Andhra in Gulf Region because they no ned to go Gulf as a Labour since they have water resources and all facilities which has provided by Govt of AP with the money of Telangana, this is Ridiculous
You are invited to Seemandhra..No one has ever banned any telangana ppl to enter seemandhra….
Dear Mr Chakravathy
Your should learn to Respect the Gurus who teach to many.
Your title having Word "Heinous" is totally in appropriate.
Now would you present the basis of your data.
Let me challenge your statement that only 10 lakh hectares in Kosta Andhra.
In my view just Nagarjuna Sagar alone delivered as much.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagarjuna_Sagar
or is it that you conviniently counted Nagarjuna Sagar irrigated land as Telangana because it is located in Telangana?
If so its clear who is distorting !
Have you seen or lived Telangana outside Hyderabad?
If not, do not comment.
Jai Telangana
as per the ref u gave it is 1.113 million acers land so it come to around 4.5 lakh hectors
where u got 10 lakh hectors
only few simple questions of disparity(though they r countless)
how many advocate generals(42%of the total popln) from telangana?
drinking water or water for irrigation, which z a priority,,,30 yrs floride people nalgonda asking for water, where is the justice,,,,,,,how can u people compensate for the life of people of nalgonda(inspite of nagjurna sagar on thier land)
13 yrs CMs from telangana(42%),,,out of 52 yrs
did any politian accepted this or any andhrite apolized to telangana?
Telangana is our birth right,,,v ll get it at any cost
jai telangana
only few simple questions of disparity(though they r countless)
how many advocate generals(42%of the total popln) from telangana?
drinking water or water for irrigation, which z a priority,,,30 yrs floride people nalgonda asking for water, where is the justice,,,,,,,how can u people compensate for the life of people of nalgonda(inspite of nagjurna sagar on thier land)
13 yrs CMs from telangana(42%),,,out of 52 yrs
did any politian accepted this or any andhrite apolized to telangana?
Telangana is our birth right,,,v ll get it at any cost
Hi sampath,
how many advocate generals(42%of the total popln) from telangana?
krishna river is the boarder between guntur and nalgonda dist.how can any one claim a dam built from this end to that end river can fall under one dist. ok for admin purpose u can keep under one dist that is diff. It does not mean that it belongs to them. check a lot of islands inside river including nagaruna konda come under guntur dist.
NS is result of hard work of lobbying and personal money of mla/mps and jamindars of krishna, guntur and prkasam dists. that to against powerful lobbying of tamils it is sanctioned when these dist are in madras state.
if we have to give drinking water to flouride effected areas in the state we have to supply it to first to prakasam as it is the first dist to find foluride problem in india and having most flouride content in ground water. guntur and nalgonda are afterwards, check the studies done by AU or u r own OU proffessors.
and to supply water to flouride effected areas in prakasam u does not need lift irrigation. just need to impliment second phase of NS project. which costs very less. when compared to lift irrigations proects that we need in nalgonda. already nalgonda has lot of lift irrigations. is this terrian is also disparity created by andhrites. but diff between prakasam and nalgonda dist people is from 30 years nalgonda people are asking for water by fighting againest politicians, making noise. prakasam dist guys are fighting with the problem improving their ponds/well. so they are fasing less flouride problem than nalgonda. when JP is the collector of prakasam he with the help of people almost doubled the tank capacityies removing slits in it.
13 yrs CMs from telangana(42%),,,out of 52 yrs
as per 2001 censes
3,06C from telangana (HYD city has almost 50L which has people from allover the state can't claim all are from telangana)
3.15C from coastal andhra in 2001 so it has more population than telangana even you include hyd population.
1.34 C from rayala seema most backward area. anthapoor is most dryest dist after jaisalmer(thar desert) in india. generally has less population
coastal andhra CMs are Kasu Brahmananda Reddy(7 years), Bhavanam Venkatarami Reddy(7 months),NTR(7 years),nadendla(31 days)
so they come around 14+ years in which NTR came with his own charishama asking votes on showing his face. all his candidates got votes based on his face not on their own face(including u r kcr on that day)
I don't see a single leader in telangana who can show face and can win candidates in coastal andhra or rayal seema.
forget about them show me one leader in telangana with his face value who can clean sweep telangana.not with the hatrate on other areas.
so if you remove NTR only 7+ years from coastal andhra means coastal andra got more injustice in your case.
I feel CMs/leaders won't came on the ratio of popultaion(any where in the world).
They came based on their talent of getting votes(NTR) and/or who has more loyality to high commands(pv narasimha rao, rosaiah)
for example congress last time elections went showing YSR (who strongly opposed telagana). TDP showing CBN.
I don't understand why andhrite will apolize to telangana. If telangana produce a leader of masses he will become CM
no one will object.
how many advocate generals(42%of the total popln) from telangana?
how many Home ministers are from andhra.
Hi Samatha,
To your questions
1) In my village there are 100 families and 10 roads and 20 jobs are there . Out of 20 jobs 10 jobs got by road number 9 families . Do you think other 9 roads families wants a separate village . I don't think so . If I am enough intelligent I go to road number 9 and learn their learning tricks to get the job. Just like that Our AP is a village .
2) Do you know how many people died in Divi seema Cyclone and other Cyclone's in Andhra area and you know the highest number of prostitutes in Bombay are from Srikakulam Dist . They have their own problems and Mr Nallamothu explained about the water problems in his book . Did you get a chance to read it?
3) India has 28 states and 7 union territories . Do you think every state got a prime minster chance in this 52 years ? so what should the remaining states should do? Do you want them to go for separate country . Even in Telanagana my district didn’t get a CM chance yet , so Can I ask for union territory for my district ?
no reply from poisonous and useless t professors and their unemployed political followers as usual
One can see the debate getting nasty towards the end. It is surprising that so many people still believe that Governments can decide who and which areas get developed. Who could have stopped provision of potable water in flouride prone areas of Nalgonda? Local MLAs? Or local Ministers? Or PV Narasimha Rao or J.Vengal Rao or Chenna Reddy (the all time champion of Telangana) or T.Anjaiah? Central&State governments are spending thousands of crores on rural water supply. Where was the money going? Does it require seperation or does seperation guarantee that the problem will be solved? Who guarantees that? The same politicians?
1969 is repeating itself. Don't you educated people see that?
Hi samantha,
krishna river is the boarder between guntur and nalgonda dist.how can any one claim a dam built from this end to that end river can fall under one dist. ok for admin purpose u can keep under one dist that is diff. It does not mean that it belongs to them. check a lot of islands inside river including nagaruna konda come under guntur dist.
NS is result of hard work of lobbying and personal money of mla/mps and jamindars of krishna, guntur and prkasam dists. that to against powerful lobbying of tamils it is sanctioned when these dist are in madras state.
if we have to give drinking water to flouride effected areas in the state we have to supply it to first to prakasam as it is the first dist to find foluride problem in india and having most flouride content in ground water. guntur and nalgonda are afterwards, check the studies done by AU or u r own OU proffessors.
and to supply water to flouride effected areas in prakasam u does not need lift irrigation. just need to impliment second phase of NS project. which costs very less. when compared to lift irrigations proects that we need in nalgonda. already nalgonda has lot of lift irrigations. is this terrian is also disparity created by andhrites. but diff between prakasam and nalgonda dist people is from 30 years nalgonda people are asking for water by fighting againest politicians, making noise. prakasam dist guys are fighting with the problem improving their ponds/well. so they are fasing less flouride problem than nalgonda. when JP is the collector of prakasam he with the help of people almost doubled the tank capacityies removing slits in it.
13 yrs CMs from telangana(42%),,,out of 52 yrs
as per 2001 censes
3,06C from telangana (HYD city has almost 50L which has people from allover the state can't claim all are from telangana)
3.15C from coastal andhra in 2001 so it has more population than telangana even you include hyd population.
1.34 C from rayala seema most backward area. anthapoor is most dryest dist after jaisalmer(thar desert) in india. generally has less population
coastal andhra CMs are Kasu Brahmananda Reddy(7 years), Bhavanam Venkatarami Reddy(7 months),NTR(7 years),nadendla(31 days)
so they come around 14+ years in which NTR came with his own charishama asking votes on showing his face. all his candidates got votes based on his face not on their own face(including u r kcr on that day)
I don't see a single leader in telangana who can show face and can win candidates in coastal andhra or rayal seema.
forget about them show me one leader in telangana with his face value who can clean sweep telangana.not with the hatrate on other areas.
so if you remove NTR only 7+ years from coastal andhra means coastal andra got more injustice in your case.
I feel CMs/leaders won't came on the ratio of popultaion(any where in the world).
They came based on their talent of getting votes(NTR) and/or who has more loyality to high commands(pv narasimha rao, rosaiah)
for example congress last time elections went showing YSR (who strongly opposed telagana). TDP showing CBN.
I don't understand why andhrite will apolize to telangana. If telangana produce a leader of masses he will become CM
no one will object.
how many advocate generals(42%of the total popln) from telangana?
how many Home ministers are from andhra.
Kodandaram says ' Today, on record, Telangana gets a mere 277 tmc of water, which is far less in reality. If the Jalyagnam is implemented Telangana will lose its share in the river water permanently. The same situation prevails in the other sector too"
But the same man in a book "
Perspectives on Polavaram, a major irrigation project on Godavari
EDBy Biksham Gujja, Ramkrishna Sangem, Vinod Goud
in the article "Problem,but an answer" on page 160 says "..,268 tmc of water goes to Coastal Andhra while 243 tmc goes to Telangana.." .While in the article about he says 277 tmc water is utilized in Telangana.What am I missing here? Just 34 tmc from Krishna or something else?
The leaders of Telangana are conformed facists.Their hate campain
reminds us the Nazi propaganda.Telangana should not go into the hands
of such people.It will dangerous for entire india.
Express in terms what is bothering you if separated
Hi,
Prof kodandaram spreading false news to telangana people. KCR family&co earning like anything using telangana movement. Why should I hate telangana people? Why should I hate seemandhra people? Just think before. we are all brotheres & sisters. we will unitedly solve the problem of telangana, rayalaseema,andhra issues. First of all we are indians,then anything.
jai telangana,jai andhra,jai rayalaseema –> jai andhrapradesh –> jai india
You andhra —s spread false news. U ppl are shameless that is y u want to stay here even we scold u.
Your father presented Whole of Telanaadu to You. You are from a certain town. Why don't you stay there. Infact, why don't you stay at the same place Lat/Lon where you were born. Don't you go out of Telanaadu to Karnataka, UP, Gulf as you people keep saying that lot of our people migrating to gulf because of Andhras. You are not going to Gulf because you don't have work here or famine here. Going to desert to escape famine. really true. They are going there for better prospects of earning money. And who is going. Not people who dig/seeep/lift. The migrating people are skilled workers. plumbers/carpenters/electricians/chemists/engineers/Muslims. Why do such skilled people go there even when Arabs lookup on you as servants?
You have a well oiled good propoganda machine. It seems when stark truths are put forward by Prof. Kodandram you try to divert the attention of the masses. Truth is a bitter pill for people from AndhraSeema. They want to live in a world of delusions and ask the other people to believe them. Andhra Pradesh was formed against the strong will of Telanganites. They never asked for a united Telugu speaking state. They had had their own apprehensions against the plundering and willy cunning nature of seema-andhra people. Even Pandit Nehuru was against the merger of Hyderabad state into Andhra and he never wanted to succumb into the pressure tactics adopted by the well established Seema Andhra netas. Poor Potti Sriramulu fought for the liberation of Seema Andhra from Madras Presidency but not for the MERGER of telangana with Andhra. But Seema Andhra people seem to bark from the top of their voices all false propoganda in the hope that if you speak lies 100 times it would seem to be true to the world though it is not true. Seema Andhra people claim that so many projects are being done in Telangana. For Gods sake these projects are only on paper and seemed to have been done and the money being siphoned away by the contractors. Guess who these contractors are? These are the same crooks from Seema Andhra. They scavenge the state finances without any shame. Plundering is only their motto and this is faithfully implemented by the government with the political and administrative class coming from Seema Andhra.
Seems you can understand english. Read the report and comeback with new lies: http://pib.nic.in/archieve/others/2011/jan/d2011010502.pdf
today prof kodadam has asked his stop the business of the profitable3 concerns mainly fm andha region. Actually this man is suppossed to fight sgainsd the government and government policies but not against the private business and private firms, this type of mentality is not required the police should arrest such leaders immdly, and they have to be taught the manners to such an educated one.
My dear pseudo Intellectuals,
Stop all such non-sense articles which distort all facts. you are playing with the lives the people whose lives were already destroyed for 3 generations. You guys want telangana to suffer forever because of andhra rulers. There are people still alive who knows the real facts. So much institutionalized injustice is not there in any region/country/state in the world. If you think you have basic humanity and basic love for the justice, stop writing such useless articles thinking you are intellectual. With your useless writings you are spoiling the minds of Andhra region people who already dont know anything about Telangana. If you want to know real facts, come to Telangana I'll show you 100 evidences of injustice to people of Telangana just due to merger with Andhra. Nobody wanted to merge with Andhra. People fought for not merging with Andhra. Even few people were killed by the Andhra officials ( from 1948-52) for raising voice. You should at least respect basic right of people. Please do not write such articles. mail me if you want to come to Telangana. Not even a single fact was mentioned in any text books about Telangana, so obviously educated people do not know anything about this region. because of dirty media, people got regional feelings and they view from such a negative stand point.
My dear Intellectual, dont you feel ashamed of being distroyed (?) by other people? It is well known that nobody can enter into your life without permission. Ideots only blame others. I dont think you are an ideot:)
Uttar Pradesh given more prime ministers than cricketers to india, how can we rate UP, Now UPA chairperson is also elected from UP, 50yrs are more Prime ministers are from UP, AP is ruled by Rayalaseema CMs, so where is the development, development of any state depends on that areas people also, now T- area people also developing, students are catching up, send KCR to Mehaboobnagar district, Harishrao to Medak, Kodandram to Adilabad, KTR to Karimnagar district, Madhu Yaski to Nizamabad, Gutta sukhenderreddy to Nalgonda, all these so called T-fighters should leave Hyderabad and reside in those distrivts, then they can understand the problems. They are all living in posh houses in Hyderabad, they want power in the name of T-movement, so many leaders are there, but no one works for people of Telangana, people are nice, leaders spoiling them,
To all those supporting the formation of a separate state of telangana, I just want to ask one simple and basic question. We, the people living in telangana region have voted & elected local leaders from telangana region for the past 55 years for the post of MPs, MLAs, Municipal councillors, sarpanchs, etc in the successive national & local body elections. We did not vote for the people of Andhra & Rayalaseema regions because they never stood in these elections as they were not born in this region or were not from this region. It was & is the duty of such leaders from telangana to serve as peoples representatives and to work hard for the development of this region. Getting elected as a MP or an MLA is no small thing as many sincere & duty-bound MPs & MLAs from rest of the country have been doing wonders to the development of their respective constituencies. Even a non-elected person like Anna Hazare, a social service activist, generated massive public support with his non-violent methods and has managed to bring down the national government to its knees for the noble cause of passing a comprehensive & effective anti-corruption bill. And all that was for a greater national cause. In comparison, an elected people’s representative of the status of a MP or a MLA can do much more for the development activities of his/her respective constituency as he would have the inherent local public support & more than that a MP or a MLA would have access to central & state government funds allotted to his/her constituency in every year of the national & state budgets. Where is all that money going? Who is accountable for all funds coming from the central & state governments ? I am sorry to say that a major chunk of it is only going into the pockets of the politicians of telangana region who are exploiting the poor, illiterate people of the region. Why is telangana region so backward ? It is because of high illiteracy levels when compared to Andhra & Rayalaseema regions. What is stopping these so-called MPs & MLAs to open schools in every village of the region & provide free education to its children? I find it ridiculous when KCR & his fellow TRS leaders repeatedly point out that Telangana region is backward because of leaders from Andhra & Seema regions who exploited natural resources from telangana region for the development of their regions. Even the leaders of Congress & TDP from the region have joined KCR in this mud-slinging, which I find highly distressing. I remember a saying of the famous telugu poet Sri Sri & is also cited often by our beloved telugu leader & freedom fighter Tanguturi Prakasam -”Desam ante matti kadoi, desam ante manushuloi”. (The nation is not formed because of land but is formed because of people) As a sincere Indian, I raise my voice & ask what have the numerous MPs & MLAs from the Telangana region have done for the past 55 years for the development of their constituencies ??? Even though there have been corruption cases registered against Jagan (and I hope those charges be proven), as a MP he has dramatically transformed the development activities of his constituency Cuddapah over the last 5 years. For all the telangana leaders & two-faced politicians of TRS party, I want to cite a famous proverb from a popular bollywood movie – “Jinke ghar sheeshe se bane woh doosre pe pathar nahi pheka karte”. (Those whose homes are made of glass, they are not supposed to throw stones at other people’s homes). The older children of these leaders of TRS party are studying in USA universities while the younger ones are studying in the rich international schools around Hyderabad. These “NRI” schools were functioning till Sept 30 while those schools where the majority of children of common people in Hyderabad are studying were forced to shut down by 23th of September. The term examinations in these schools were supposed to be held from 23th to 30 Sept (just before Dasara holidays) but couldn’t be held in time due to some of these selfish politicians whose kids could complete their exams in the “international schools” before they could happily go for a short vacation for the festival. “The Common Man” is the one who is suffering as his innocent kids are constantly faced with unseen levels of stress and don’t even can enjoy a good festival with family and friends. Food for thought for all the gullible people of telangana region. Think over this before you react.
I am from Telangana, so are my parents and my grandparents & their parents. The other day on a hot weekend afternoon in Hyderabad, I went to buy in some drink coconuts (Kobbari bondam or nariyal pani) for me and my family from a local street vendor. I happened to witness a particular incident which shocked me to no end.
This particular coconut vendor had come from Nellore district nearly 6 years ago and had began selling coconut water in my locality in Hyderabad on his typical 4 wheel cart at the roadside and at very reasonable prices. He has neatly categorised the coconuts based on its estimated water content and selling it to customers at Rs. 7, Rs. 10 & Rs. 15, respectively as displayed. He even does door-deliveries to customers in the locality, after his business hours (after 7 pm) & free-of-cost. With this business, he supports a family of 6 (his old parents, his wife & his two kids aged 4 and 7). He had a bicycle to start with and had purchased a second-hand moped just last year. He sends his kids to a small private school, which is nearly 3 kms away.
Now, since I was quite familar with him, I always approach him to buy the drink coconuts. So on that day, as I was buying the coconuts from him, a couple of men dropped by to purchase some coconuts. By their look & accent, these men happened to be cab drivers from telangana region. They seemed to be fairly well to do since they owned their cabs & had some gold jewellery adorning their necks and fingers 7 were not from the locality. Now came the flash point. They told the coconut vendor to take 4 large coconuts (priced Rs. 15) and as soon as he parcelled & gave it to them and asked for the money, these men started hurling abuses on the poor guy and said that would only pay Rs. 7 each for them. They even threatened him that they would come back with more men that night & will destroy his cart & warned him to go back to Andhra. Since I was quite familar with the pricing logic of these coconuts (depending on the size & water contents), I knew that the coconut vendor was fair in asking for said prices. The poor coconut vendor had no choice and was forcibly made to sell these large coconuts for the price of the small ones.
When small traders like this coconut vendor are not secure in the prevailing situation, what can the people from Andhra who are settled in every nook & corner of Hyderabad hope for ? Or for that matter, people from other states in the country who have settled in Hyderabad for decades could expect to when a few selfish leaders are creating unwarranted hatred & tensions among innocent people based on feeling of regionalism. TRS party is another MNS party (Maharashtra) in the making.
Well Writen Life experience. I appreciate you and your down to earth experience. Educated Poople like you and me should appose,unite together to give better living standards for fellow country citizens.I have no respect for policat parties as of today in AP.One has a scam which has never heard in the history of the world.One has Scam in defence. one has power dream other party wants to make money out a seperate state.Even in USA, Canda, UK and other countries we are divided based on region. I am ashamed of these educated uneducated( intentionally written) making money but not having basic human values.
Seperate Telangana is a truimph card for power politics every time. history revels this. but nobody in this region is ready to accept that is the tragidy in the political secenrio of indipendent India. God save this country.
Its alarming to read about such incidents..when a person can't get security in a united state what can we expect when its Divided???? Will kcr assure all Seemandhra ppl that they will get better oppurtunities when state would be divided? or will he work to earn a livelihood for them.???
The point here is why should there be a seperate state.As an identity everyone is aware about Telangana and its culture…ppl of this region were Once backward..but Situation Now is better than Previous.Having Hyderabad In its centre makes it all the more profitable.The loss would be to Seemandhra ppl who have no where to go.its like living in another country.evn after having valid citizenship.ppl should come together.and stop this movement. If it is essential to develop a region,then why confine it only to telangana..that is not the only region which is backward in A.P, Seema/Andhra are equally competent in backwardness. If revenue is supposed to be taken then Telangana(Nizam) region earns more revenue in most sectors than Seemandhra Region. So these illogical and incorrect statistics should be condemned and true facts should be presented.What the leaders in Telangana need to understand is that..even after acheiving telangana there wont be much scope of progress for you guys in this region.coz Seemandhra ppl will definetly try to develop their region and put all efforts and investments in developing their region.Its a known fact that telangana is what becoz of Seemandhra ppl.another 10 yrs and Seemandhra will cut throat the competition that telangana is giving.So dont try to misguide ppl and see things only for ur selfish gains.ppl will give u guys back at the right time
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—- Land cheated by politicians
—- Land still run by dhoras
— Land of political lies.-
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Mr Raj,
Its True wat you have mentioned.i hope ppl of Telangana,Andhra realise it soon.
Pls call a new andhra pradesh state is being carved out of present andhra pradesh. It is not telangana new state being carved out. Telangana is remaining like that only with capital no change and 10 districts. Forcbily the districts in andhra and rayalaseema are thrown out and are formed new state. This means without the people interest a new state is being formed. By and large it is the death to democracy. No where is history one who wanted to separate got everything and other is thrown out without his wish…. This is Soniamma rajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj…….
True!!!! Its like one is thrown out of his home without his consent…
Well Said Raj!!! Till such time we ediots make bhajans to this scoun@@@!s (referd Bernardshaw) our fate will be like this!!!! Intelectuals & Friends from Telangana please look in deep to the reality.
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