BELOW IS THE TEXT OF THE LETTER GIVEN TO SMT. SUSHMA SWARAJ ON HER VISIT TO OUR STATE LAST WEEK.
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To,
Smt. Sushma Swaraj
Leader of the Opposition, Lok Sabha
Bharatiya Janata Party
Dear Sushma ji,
Welcome to the great state of Andhra Pradesh. We are a proud Telugu tribe that have been a source of inspiration to Chatrapati Shivaji and his guru Samartha Ramdas. Vijayanagara Empire, one of the greatest Telugu Empires to have ruled South India inspired Shivaji to fight for “Swarajya”.
India is a melting pot of cultures, languages, and lifestyles. Thanks to our founding fathers, India preserved its national integrity by acknowledging the existence of diversity within its boundaries. Sympathising with Telugu people’s desire for self-identity Mahatma Gandhi in 1938 wrote to Sri Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan: “I have always aimed at a redistribution of Provinces on linguistic basis. The cue was taken from the Andhra movement”
Reorganisation of States along linguistic lines has been a boon to the Indian Republic. It gave regional cultures their desired recognition and identity, while strengthening the Indian Union.
It would be unwise to divide linguistic states for political reasons or on small states principle. This will destroy the cultural fabric of many a states and will eventually undermine India’s national integrity.
We would like to pose a few straight forward questions:
- Separatists for many years have been alleging that their jobs have been looted, river waters are stolen, and revenues are misused. Hence, give us a separate state. Are you in agreement with these allegations?
- While your party supports division of Andhra Pradesh, why doesn’t it support division of Uttar Pradesh, Gujarat, West Bengal, and Maharashtra with the same vigour?
- Your party stands for small states? If Telangana state is formed it would be the 12th largest state in the country. What is your barometer for a small state?
- Is BJP taking cognisance of 60 day old spontaneous, non-political agitation that is going on in the state, where millions of people are on the road every day?
- Why does your party want to donate nearly 15MP seats to the Congress Party?
- Why has your party gone back on the stance taken by the then Home Minister Advani?
I hope your party will re-consider its decision on the division of Andhra Pradesh state in the interest of our nation.
Regards,
Nalamotu Chakravarthy
President
Visalandhra Mahasabha
GK & others,
This may not change your opinions but should help you know the truth about your own history.
http://www.pressacademyarchives.ap.nic.in/Newspaper.asp
Select Andhra Patrika, year 1941, month 06 and Day as 02. Read pages 2 and 3 completely.
This was the speech Raavi Narayana Reddy gave as the President of Nizam Rashtra Andhra Maha Sabha.
The speech gives you a picture of political, social, economical and religious conditions prevailing in Nizam dominion in 1941.
This is not an altered speech. No distortions as well.
The paper was published from Madras…the fact is Madras is not part of Andhra now…as India is evolving there is re-organization that is need along the way…now that does not only happen based on language all the time…no where in the world there is a scientific rule for forming states…
I do not disagree with what the politicians spoke/hoped back then, clearly they wanted a better way of things to happen which were not happening under Nizam and hence they were building muscle using AM. Should this be used as a 10 commandments forever? I believe not as you can see todays leaders change their stance by the day or by the hour if they can benefit from it.
Question is why is the denial of what happened since then and the current prevailing facts and aspirations? There is a reason for article 3 in the constitution. I am always for a win-win for all people. The bone of contention is clearly HYD as it has become the beacon of hope, development, dream or whatever you want to call for all telugu speaking people… but until the politicians stop playing games and come to terms with this we will not see this going forward in a friendly and brotherly fashion…
>> There is a reason for article 3 in the constitution
GK, Article 3 was given a very misleading explanation by T leaders. It is not for the protection of minority from a dominating majority.
Unlike US of A, India is not a group of states that joined together. Constitution emphasizes more on India as one nation, and the internal boundaries are immaterial except for administrative convenience.
So, to avoid formation of states at the whims and fancies of local leaders through friendly political arrangements for political advantage, Constitution has given such discretion to the parliament to take decisions in the larger interest of the nation.
Unfortunately, it is the parliament which is acting as per the political interests of a party.
What is win-win one party grabbing all the wealth generated by collective effort?
Chakravarthy, a couple of points:
1. Unlike USA, India is not a melting pot but a salad bowl
2. BJP supports the formation of Vidarbha & Gorkhaland
This is how BJP supports Gorkhaland.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/WestBengal/Gorkhaland-Darjeeling-MP-Jaswant-Singh-missing/Article1-1103185.aspx
And this is how BJP supports Vidharbha.
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-08-07/nagpur/41167141_1_vidarbha-state-shiv-sena-local-sena-leaders
http://aksharsatya.blogspot.in/2013/10/blog-post_2.html
Not sure why Telengana dialect was not used in the 'Golkonda Patrika' back then. I hope it is not due to the suppression of Telengana Bhasha by the Andhra Suppressors at that time! Mr. Jai??
BTW, this comment for some reason was not accepted (yet??) in his post
fyi… until 1946/7 golconda patrika did not use the term Telangana either for region or language
after 1948 it used Telangana to represent a region only
Sushma ji and a few others in BJP are bent on creating hurdles to Modi. Her current mission seems to scuttle the chances of BJP and TDP alliance so that Modi cannot make enough seats from AP.
BTW, over last nine years top leaders in BJP developed communists attitude. They do not show solutions to any problem. But break the system first.
Gangarajuki Rastram Kavali
http://www.ap7am.com/lv-124543-gangarajuki-rastram-kavali-comedy-short-film.html
Watch and enjoy
Telangana Politician making Anti Indian statements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feMFB_Fe0fg
The agitation is about separatism from India. You keep watching. It is fueled by the remnants (Jaya Shankar, Kaloji etc) which always wanted the Nizam state to be a separate country. They have treated the Andhra people in a worst manner as they considered them as outsiders, non-mulki meaning not of the same country.
If the people of Andhra together do not come out in all manners from facebook down to smart phones to stop this rogue separatism, India will be fragmented further.
Thank you Kamalakar garu. That is exactly what I have been trying to tell the foolish beggars Seemandhras, that this is a country-type fraud movement similar to India-Pak happenning in the center of India. This is not new. It is the same separatism that happened back in 1948. A military action is very much needed. The stealing of Bhadrachalam, Munagala, Huzurnagar, Aswaraopeta, part of Nagarjunasagar, etc make it no different from Pak stealing Jammu. The imposition of Mulki rules is no different from a country having citizenship rules. The calling of Telugu people of other regions as Andhrollu Drohulu Dongalu Dheyyalu is no different from Pak calling Indian muslims as Mohajirs. This is fueled by Razakar remnants (Owaisi etc) as much as it is fueled by Doras (also beligereants during Telangana Rebellion and Army action). The remnants of 1948 and 1969 have continuously brainwashed their people to think that Seemandhra are conquerors and drohulu. The same opposition is not shown for other linguistic groups as they will not keep quiet like Seemandhras. Seemandhras are shameless race with no medhavulu (all drained out to Hyd and else where and the drained out are shameless and will not open their mouth).
Chakravarthy your waste letters are not going to do anything. The Telangana people have internationalized the issue. Do that. Even in BBC they keep saying Telangana is one of India's most Under-developed region. Infact Rayalaseema, Prakasam, Palnadu, Srikakulam, Vizianagaram and only Mahabubnagar should get into BBC as under-developed. That is what even SKC said but even people like you did not popularize SKC report. It is the only report which is drafted by the Indians and India itself put it aside.
TDP, YSRCP, Loksatta, CPI etc should come out and do a full blown movt which will live in the hearts of people of India. The T agitation is the worlds biggest lie and still we are all sitting calm.
The Seemandhra politicians and people must know that they will lose more if the fraud separatism and the lies are not tackled and shattered to pieces. Know the magnanimity of T-Fraud movt which even KCR talked in yesterdays Sakala Jana Bheri. You got to be persistent and mindful. As long as this is not stopped, the Hyd state will become a separate country in the coming years.
Ravi and Kamalakar,
what ever you tell the Seemandhra, they will not change. They are just take-it-easy type beggars. They will beg for samaikya but will not openly condemn and answer each and every lie in the public. They need media
TV9 belongs to Seemandhra but 90% of the reporters are from Telangana. HMTV, 10TV, CVR, V6, MusiTV, DeccanTV, RajNews, TNews, TNews, etc are 100% T channels. The only Telugu English paper The HansIndia belongs to HMTV Telangana. 40% of ABN employee are from Telangana. Vartha is pro Telangana. Namasthe Telangana, Kalam Telangana, Poru Telangana, ETelangana. Prajasakthi is in the hands of Telangana people. Though 90% of the media is in their hands they keep lying that the media is in the hands of seemandhra. If the media is in the hands of Seemandhra, this fraud movt would have not continued for 15 years. That us how they are they will blame others before others show their meanness.
There are no Seemandhra only dedicated channel or newspaper headquartered in Seemandhra.
Instead of having an organization like Telangana Jagruthi in Seemandhra districts, the cheap fellows of Seemandhra are performing Bathkamma and Teenmar of Telangana. In Telangana itself these festivals are caste and regional (Bathkamma of low bcs and of a town in warangal not entire warangal.) (Bonalu of scs and sts and of rr dist only).
Every article that is published in BBC, TimesOfIndia, NewIndianExpress, Deccan Chronicle, The Hindu etc etc are all pro telangana. This is because the Seemandhra beggars are fools. The truth did not reach the people and it will not reach the people as long as you just keep writing these worthless letters but not do a real movt. Just as Undavalli displays the video of t-people lying, display each and every fraud and then talk in the Save AP sabhas or whereever.
Chakravarthy,
you have been begging by writing these letters. These letters will do nothing. When you are confident that the Truth is with you, do a massive movt. SKC is the only official truth and brahmastra in your hand what else do you need. Ikkada recchakodthamu kavali (T-vaadulu anyaymu ga recchakottaru valla prajalani) meeru nyayamuga recchkottandi seemandhrulani. Anthey kani vadu Deshapathi gadu kukkalaga morigadu ani Ashok babu lanti vallu bhayapaddara anthey. Ashok babu anna dhanilo thappu emi undhi, evarini thakku emi cheyaledhu ayana, the T-vadi pwill portray everything in that style as they will not like anything that is anti-their-fraud-movt. If you can first bring out the manner in which T-movt fraud and recchakottey technique works and show it to the people first then they will start disbelieving the Tmovt . All Ashok babu said was you lived as banisalu under someone that is why you were underdeveloped. That is truth and fact of life that some people are not able to digest. These some people brainwash others to not digest it.
Kamalakar, Ravi & Suresh
please remember that India is not just 5.5 crores people in 13 districts of Royalaseema and Andhra regions. The burden of nations integrity lies with everyone.
Maybe people in rest of India ready for a nation inside thier nation.
This is not first time T-vaadis talk on Hyderabad integration. Three years ago Ghanta Chakrapani virtually called Police action as agression on Hyderabad state.
If possible get hold of Capt. L Panduranaga reddy interview on HMTV on 17th Sep 2013. You will hear worst comments on Indian Union between 1948 and 1956.
I agree wtih Suresh, Ravi and kamlakar. The present tone and tenor of seemandhra is too detail oriented, explanatory and this might work if T protaganists are interested in truth. But at highest level like Prof Jai shankar, KCR they are a bunch of greedy frauds and the next level like GK, Jai are emotional fools venting out prejudices in the garb of a "movement".
I said many times T movement has all fascist characters and need to be condemned as such but the public tone of samaikyandhra is still too pacifist.
Chakravarthy,
I feel that your questions are not very tough for BJP to brush them aside, here is my take on them…
No, but strongly support smaller states when people demand and feasible.
When political consensus arise BJP will take the right decision to support smaller states…
A region that has an identity, reasonable and self-sustaining revenue, population, political and development aspirations…Goa as an example…but asking for a exact size or population is a silly question.
Yes, and support their demands on the problems of their region, issues from separation and not asking for control of other region.
BJP wants to develop SeemaAndhra as well why people do not want to vote for BJP?
Advaniji already said it was because of CBN they did not go forward with the proposal back then…
Chakravarthy asked the definition of smaller state. The concept of smaller state is silly without defining what it means. Whats wrong in that. Cant bigger states be formed by merging the neighbouring regions if they have unform identity or aspirations ? If you cant defnine smaller state dont use that word. Use the phrases like "states based upon public demands is acceptable".
Now if you go with "on demand", you re idirectly encouraging agitations everywhere, and there will be no end. The hollowness in separatists arguments is consistent and impeccable!.
Self suatainability is about how you rearrange. Just North T without Hyd is a doomed state.North T with Hyd might be a richest state..BTW Advani said T with capital hyd is a nonsense demand. Why dont u talk about that?
Yes! You people grab all the wealth generated over six decades. And we will wait for a messaiah come and develop our region.
>> A region that has an identity, reasonable and self-sustaining revenue, population, political and development aspirations…Goa as an example…but asking for a exact size or population is a silly question.
ok.. forget identity part as it is debatable. lets say a region for.eg Rayalaseema might not have self sustaining revenue and people of andhra don't want to live with it, what will be the solution? Based on current principle of one state one language either the dists has to be merged with telangana or andhra. What should be your take in this scenario? Will T leaders accept couple of dists as part of telangana state?
you quoted population.. is it not what Chakravarthy garu asking.. how much population constitutes the definition of smaller state?
>> Advaniji already said it was because of CBN they did not go forward with the proposal back then…
Is it not because of Jagan Congress taken stand for telangana? do you think Congress will give a hoot about all the parameters you mentioned?
Why is Congress not taking similar steps in Vidharbha? Vidharbha is much more backward than Telangana.
http://www.sakshi.com/news/state/govt-will-find-ways-to-clear-vidarbha-mwada-backlog-chavan-69887
One reason for the huge rift is the suppression of regional past…this has always proved bad all over the world…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM0XahcQGD8
Jai Gottimukkala says:October 1, 2013 at 2:27 am
"India is not a melting pot but a salad bowl"
JaiG, If you accept India is a salad bowl, why are separatists harassing, Marathi, Aggarwal and Seemandhras in Telangana region, to forcibly celebrate Bathukamma. Why do you want to make T as a melting pot. Shouldn't we be accepting the "saladness" of Telangana?
The logic of making separate states based on backwardness seems to be a popular argument these days, but let us reflect on it a little bit. This principle says prove yourself to be backward and you will qualify for a separate state. Suppose a member of the family is sick, is separating him from the rest of the family the solution? I am not talking about Telangana here. Including Hyderabad city, Telangana is the most developed of the regions in the AP state. By now this is agreed upon by all sides.
Coming back to backward areas, the north coastal region of AP is backward, the suggested solution is to form a separate state named Kalinga Pradesh. If once separated, I wonder what will happen to this dismal area? Suddenly riches, employment, infrastructure would pop out of the earth? On the other hand if they are still part of a prosperous state like united AP, the state can direct all its surplus budget and new industrial units to the area as a package and help it grow. Some directed development is all needed. In fact if you think of it that is what happened to Telangana in the last 57 years.
My conclusion, if you are poor find a prosperous partner to work with, don't kick your neighbors with intellectual and capital resources out. Then, you will be at the mercy of some loan sharks who are not interested in your real development.
Same argument holds good for small states versus big states.
After Telangana Kalam newspaper
http://janamsakshi.org/
http://janamsakshi.org/69690
http://janamsakshi.org/69651
http://porutelangana.in/%e0%b0%b6%e0%b1%8d%e0%b0%b0%e0%b1%80%e0%b0%a8%e0%b0%bf%e0%b0%b5%e0%b0%be%e0%b0%b8%e0%b1%8d-%e0%b0%97%e0%b1%8c%e0%b0%a1%e0%b1%8d-%e0%b0%95%e0%b1%81-%e0%b0%ae%e0%b0%a6%e0%b1%8d%e0%b0%a6%e0%b0%a4
http://porutelangana.in/%e0%b0%a4%e0%b0%bf%e0%b0%b0%e0%b1%81%e0%b0%b2%e0%b1%87%e0%b0%b6%e0%b1%81%e0%b0%a1%e0%b0%bf%e0%b0%a4%e0%b1%8b-%e0%b0%aa%e0%b1%86%e0%b0%9f%e0%b1%8d%e0%b0%9f%e0%b1%81%e0%b0%95%e0%b1%81%e0%b0%a8%e0%b1%8d
Tomorrows history of what KCR said for all Seemandhra people
http://porutelangana.in/%e0%b0%ae%e0%b1%8a%e0%b0%b0%e0%b0%bf%e0%b0%97%e0%b1%87-%e0%b0%95%e0%b1%81%e0%b0%95%e0%b1%8d%e0%b0%95%e0%b0%b2%e0%b0%95%e0%b1%81-%e0%b0%b8%e0%b0%ae%e0%b0%be%e0%b0%a7%e0%b0%be%e0%b0%a8%e0%b0%82
http://kattashekar.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/%e0%b0%8e%e0%b0%b5%e0%b0%b0%e0%b0%bf%e0%b0%95%e0%b0%bf-%e0%b0%aa%e0%b1%81%e0%b0%9f%e0%b1%8d%e0%b0%9f%e0%b0%bf%e0%b0%a8-%e0%b0%ac%e0%b0%bf%e0%b0%a1%e0%b1%8d%e0%b0%a1-%e0%b0%b5%e0%b0%bf%e0%b0%b6/
Wonder how telugu people will come out of all this concocted lies which will become history.
http://missiontelangana.com/tdp-samaikya-bootulu-lok-sabha/
Samaikyandhra udhyamamu. Okasari painunchi krindhaki scroll cheyandi photos choodandi. Siggu chetu antha mandhi medhavulani rachayithalaki puttinillu ayina seemandhra ippudu sarvanasenamu ayi otti vedhavalu panikimalina varu migilaru akkada. Rajadhani vasthey kani malli bagupadaru.
https://www.facebook.com/Mission.Telangana.Web
Vanda abadhdhaalu cheppi oka pelli cheyyamannaaru. Oka manchi pani.
Koti abadhdhaalu cheppi oka raashtraanni rendugaa vidagottamani evaru cheppaaro.
Ee vintha choodandi. Idhi MissionTelangana facebook pageki link ayi undhi. Naaku picchi ekki poyethatlu undhi. Mosamu, Abaddhamu tara sthayiki cherukunnayi. Abaddhamu adey varu cheppivi nijamu ayyayi, nijamu cheppevaru abaddhamu ayyaru.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=419540708150092&set=a.173579676079531.30312.171558786281620&type=1&relevant_count=1
Naku thelisi dheeniki okkatey samadhanamu. Telangana pranthamulo unna seemandhrulantha MIM ki vote veyali leka pothey vari brathuku heenam. Telangana varu anni abaddhalu adi varini varey namma sakhyamaina manushulu kakunda chesukunnaru. Andhukey varu enni natakalu adina ika varini nammakunda, MIM ki vote veyali.
విభజన పై బిజేపి లో గందరగోళం..
http://www.eenadu.net/news/newsitem.aspx?item=panel&no=9
వెయ్యేళ్ళ అనుభవం – వెయ్యేళ్ళ అవసరం
విభజనను అంగీకరించవలసివచ్చినప్పుడు 'అవసరం నూతన ఆవిష్కరణని అనివార్యం చేస్తుంది' అనే నానుడి వర్తిస్తుంది. స్వతంత్ర ప్రతిపత్తి గల ప్రాదేశిక విభాగం ఏర్పడడం, దాన్ని నడిపించడానికి ఒక కేంద్రకం ఆవిర్భవించడమే ఆ అవ…సరం. ఈ అవసరం ఇవ్వాళ తెలంగాణ నాయకులో ప్రజలో కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వమో కల్పించింది కాదు. ఇది వెయ్యేళ్ళ అవసరం. ఇది వెయ్యేళ్ళ అనుభవం.
ఆంధ్రప్రదేశ్ రెండుగా విడిపోయినప్పుడు సీమాంధ్రకు ముఖ్యంగా కోస్తాంధ్రకు రాజధానిగా ఎంపిక చెయ్యదగ్గ నగరం లేకపోవడం వెనుక, ఇంత పెద్ద ఎత్తున ప్రజా ఉద్యమం జరుగుతున్నా కనీసం ఉద్యమాన్ని, ప్రజాభిప్రాయాన్ని ఆసరా చేసుకునైనా ఉద్యమానికి సారథ్యం వహించే నాయకత్వం ఆవిర్భవించకపోవడం వెనుక చారిత్రక కారణాలున్నాయేమో పరిశీలించవలసివుంది.
ఈ పరిణామం వెనుక కారణాలు యాభై లేదా వంద సంవత్సరాలకు పరిమితమైనవా లేక అంతకంటే ముందునుంచీ ఉన్నాయా అనేది పరిశీలిస్తే దీని పునాదులు వెయ్యేళ్ళ క్రితం నుంచీ ఉన్నాయనీ, ఇది మధ్యయుగాల కోస్తాంధ్ర స్థితికీ కొనసాగింపు మాత్రమేనని అర్థమౌతుంది. అంతేకాదు, ఆంధ్రప్రదేశ్కీ తెలుగు భాషా సంస్కృతులకు ప్రతీకగా నిల్చిన కోస్తాంధ్ర వెయ్యేళ్లుగా నాయకత్వ సమస్యతోనూ, తమకు ప్రాతినిధ్యం వహించే రాజకీయ వ్యవస్థ లేమితోనూ కునారిల్లుతోందని స్పష్టమౌతున్నది. 1850ల ముందు పరిస్థితి అటుంచితే ఆ తర్వాత కోస్తాంధ్రలో సంభవించిన వ్యావసాయక ఆర్థిక విప్లవం, తద్వారా వ్యాపించిన ఆంగ్ల విద్య, ఫలితంగా సంభవించిన సాంస్కృతిక పునరుజ్జీవనాలలో మునిగితేలిన కోస్తాంధ్ర తనకు ఒక నిర్దిష్టమైన రాజకీయ నాయకత్వం కొరవడిన వైనాన్ని గుర్తించలేకపోయింది. ఆశ్చర్యకరంగా 1850లకు ముందు ఏడెనిమిది వందల చరిత్ర కూడా రాజకీయ నాయకత్వ సమస్య మేరకు ఇంతకంటే భిన్నంగా ఏమీ లేదు. తెలుగు సంస్కృతికి ప్రాతినిధ్యం వహిస్తూ వ్యవసాయాధారిత ఆర్థిక వ్యవస్థగా వేగంగా ఎదిగిన కోస్తాంధ్ర రాష్ట్రంలోని ఇతర అభివృద్ధి చెందని ప్రాంతాల పట్ల నిర్లక్ష్యాన్ని వివక్షను ప్రదర్శించింది. ఈ వైఖరి ఆ ప్రాంతాలలో ప్రత్యేక అస్తిత్వ ఉద్యమాలకు దారితీయడంతో తన అస్తిత్వాన్ని ఇతర అస్తిత్వాలతో ముడిపెట్టుకు కూర్చున్న కోస్తాంధ్ర ఇతరులతో కలిసి ఉంటేనే తన అస్తిత్వం నిలబడే స్థితికీ, లేకపోతే అస్తిత్వ రాహిత్యంలోకి జారిపోయే దుస్థితికీ వచ్చేసింది.
కృష్ణ, గోదావరి, నాగార్జునసాగర్ ఆనకట్టల నిర్మాణం తర్వాత వ్యవసాయ ఆర్థిక వ్యవస్థగా ఎదిగిన కోస్తాంధ్ర తగినరీతిలో పారిశ్రామిక ఆర్థిక వ్యవస్థగా ఎదగలేకపోవడమూ, ఆర్థిక వ్యవస్థలో మాదిరిగానే ఆలోచనా రీతుల్లోనూ సంప్రదాయ ధోరణినే అనుసరిస్తూ చుట్టూ వస్తున్న ఆధునిక ధోరణులను గుర్తించలేకపోవడమూ, సంపద, కులమూ, వివాహమూ తప్ప ఏ ఇతర అంశమూ మనుషుల్ని సంధానపరచలేక పోవడమూ అనే స్థితులకు మొత్తంగా సామాజిక ఆర్థిక, సాంస్కృతిక వ్యవస్థలను క్రోడీకరించే ఒక రాజకీయ నాయకత్వం లేకపోవడం ప్రధాన కారణంగా కనిపిస్తున్నది. ఒక వైపు పెరిగిన సంపద కోస్తాంధ్రలో మనుషుల్ని ద్వీపాలుగా మలచి ఎవరి అస్తిత్వం వారిదేననే ఏకాంత తత్వానికీ, మరోవైపు అణచివేయబడిన కులాల్లో ఉండాల్సిన కుల అస్తిత్వ స్పృహ అగ్రకులాలకు కూడా విస్తరించి వ్యతిరేక చైతన్యానికీ దారి తీసింది కానీ ఇతర ప్రాంతీయ అస్తిత్వ ఉద్యమాలను చూసినప్పుడైనా తమకు కూడా ప్రాంతీయ అస్తిత్వ చైతన్యం అవసరమని గుర్తించ లేకపోయింది. సంపదే పరమ లక్ష్యంగా సాగే సమాజాల్లోని మనుషులు తమ సంపదకు విఘాతం కలిగినప్పుడు మాత్రమే ఏకమౌతారనీ అప్పుడు నాయకుల అవసరం ఉండదనీ ప్రతి వ్యక్తీ ఒక నాయకుడు లేదా నాయకురాలు అయి తమను తాము నడిపించుకుంటారని సమైక్యాంధ్ర ఉద్యమం రుజువు చేసింది. ఒక వైపున అసలు నాయకత్వమే లేకపోవడమూ మరోవైపు ప్రతి వ్యక్తీ నాయకుడుగా మారిపోవడమూ ఇంకొకవైపు తాము ఎవరికి వారు ఒంటరి ద్వీపాలల్లే ఉంటూనే ఇతర ప్రాంతాల వారితో కలిసి ఉంటామనే ఆదర్శం కలిగిఉండడంలోని విరోధాభాస (పారడాక్స్) చర్చనీయాంశం. ఏమైనా దీనితో పాటు దాదాపు రెండు వందల సంవత్సరాల పాటు కోస్తాంధ్ర సంపద మద్రాసుకూ, ఆ తర్వాత అరవయ్యేళ్ళపాటు హైదరాబాదుకు తరలిపోవడానికీ, కోస్తాంధ్రలో ఆ రెండు నగరాలకూ సరితూగగలిగే నగరం లేకపోవడానికీ వెనుక దాదాపు వెయ్యేళ్ళ చారిత్రక వారసత్వం ఉన్నట్లనిపిస్తున్నది. నగరం లేకపోవడానికి ఒక రాజకీయ వ్యవస్థ లేకపోవడమూ, రాజకీయ వ్యవస్థ లేకపోవడానికి బలమైన నాయకత్వం లేకపోవడమూ కారణమేమో పరిశీలించవలసివుంది.
గత వెయ్యేళ్ళలో సీమాంధ్రలో సీమాంధ్ర కేంద్రంగా బలమైన కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వం లేదు. అది సహజపరిణామమే. ఎందుకంటే మధ్యయుగ లక్షణమే బలమైన కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వం లేకపోవడమూ, చిన్నచిన్న మండలాలుగా విభజితమై ఉండడమూను అయితే మధ్యయుగ ఫ్యూఢల్ లక్షణం బలహీనమైన కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వంలో బలమైన భూస్వామిక వర్గం ఉండడం. కానీ సీమాంధ్రలో ఆ యుగంలో బలా బలాలతో నిమిత్తం లేకుండా అసలు కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వమే లేకపోవడం ప్రధాన లక్షణం. ఈ వెయ్యేళ్ళలో రెడ్డిరాజులు పాలించిన స్వల్పకాలం మినహాయించి సీమాంధ్ర రాజధాని సీమాంధ్రలో లేదు. అంటే వెయ్యేళ్ళ పాటు సీమాంధ్రలో కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వం లేదు. దూరంగా ఉన్న రాజధానుల నుంచే పాలన అంతా సాగింది.
దూరంగా ఉన్న కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వం చేత పరిపాలించబడడం వెనుక మధ్యయుగ పరిమితుల మేరకైనా ఒక శక్తిగా కోస్తాంధ్ర పరిణమించ లేకపోవడం ఉందనిపిస్తుంది. జాతి, భాష, ప్రాంతీయ స్పృహలు ఏ మాత్రం లేని యుగమైనప్పటికీ కేవలం రాజ్యాధికార స్పృహతోనైనా ఈ యుగంలో సీమాంధ్ర కేంద్రంగా రాజకీయశక్తి అవతరించలేదు. కాకతీయ రాజ్యానికి సమకాలీన రాజ్యాలైన యాదవ, హోయసల రాజ్యాల పతనానంతరం అక్కడ బహమనీ, విజయనగర సామ్రాజ్యాల అవతరణకు ప్రోత్సహించిన పరిస్థితులేవో కోస్తాంధ్రలో కొరవడ్డాయి. బహుశా ఉత్తరాది నుంచి ముఖ్యంగా ఢిల్లీ నుంచి దక్షిణానికి ప్రవేశించే దారికి దూరంగా ఉండడం కోస్తాంధ్రను మధ్యయుగ ఢిల్లీ ప్రత్యక్ష రాజకీయాలతో సంబంధం లేకుండా చేసింది. మధ్యయుగ ఢిల్లీ రాజకీయమంతా దక్కన్ పీఠభూమి మధ్య భాగాన నెలకొన్న బహమనీ, విజయనగర సామ్రాజ్యాలతో ముడిపడి ఉండడం కూడా కోస్తాంధ్రను రాజకీయ అప్రాధాన్యతకు గురిచేసింది. ఫలితంగా శతాబ్దాల తరబడి కోస్తాంధ్రకు తనదైన స్థానిక రాజ్యమూ, రాజధానీ లేకపోయాయి.
స్వాతంత్య్రోద్యమం కూడా సీమాంధ్ర నుంచి ఒక జాతీయ స్థాయి నాయకుణ్ణి కాదు కదా కనీసం మద్రాసు రాజకీయాల్ని ప్రభావితం చేయగల రాజకీయ నాయకుణ్ని కూడా రూపొందించుకోలేకపోయింది. మహారాష్ట్ర, మద్రాసు రాష్ట్రాలు పదుల సంఖ్యలో జాతీయ నాయకుల్ని రూపొందించుకోగా కోస్తాంధ్ర ప్రకాశం పంతులు స్థాయిని మించిన నాయకుణ్ణి జాతీయోద్యమానికి ఇవ్వలేకపోయింది. వెయ్యేళ్ళ రాజకీయ సారథ్యం లేకపోవడం స్వాతంత్య్రోద్యమ కాలంలోనూ కొనసాగినట్లనిపిస్తోంది. మద్రాసు రాష్ట్రంలో దశాబ్దాలుగా ద్వితీయ శ్రేణి పౌరులుగా ఉపేక్షించబడి ప్రత్యేక రాష్ట్రం కోసం 1913 నుంచే ఉద్యమించ గల్గిన రాజకీయ చైతన్యం ఒక ముఖ్యనగర నిర్మాణం పట్ల దృష్టి నిలపకపోవడంలో ఉన్నది మౌలిక ప్రాంతీయ అస్తిత్వ స్పృహ లేకపోవటమే. జాతీయోద్యమ చైతన్యం కోస్తాంధ్రలో లేనేలేదా అంటే తీరాంధ్ర జిల్లాలు జాతీయచైతన్యంలో నిస్సందేహంగా సముద్రపుటలలతో పోటీపడ్డాయి. జాతీయ కాంగ్రెస్ స్థాపితమైన ఆరేళ్ళలోనే ఆంధ్రుడికి అధ్యక్ష పదవి దక్కింది.
1892లో ఏర్పడిన కృష్ణా జిల్లా కాంగ్రెస్ సంఘం జిల్లా స్థాయి సంఘాల్లో దేశంలోనే మొట్ట మొదటిది. ఆరంభం బాగానే ఉంది కానీ క్రమానుగత అధిరోహణం జరగలేదు. 1956లో ఆంధ్రప్రదేశ్ ఏర్పడిన తర్వాత నుంచి ఇప్పటిదాకా కూడా మొత్తం రాష్ట్రాన్ని నడిపించగల నాయకత్వ లోపం కోస్తాంధ్రలో కొట్టొచ్చినట్లు కనిపిస్తుంది. ఇందుకు నందమూరి తారక రామారావు ఒక్కడు మినహాయింపు. ఆయన రాష్ట్రాన్ని శాసించగల స్థితికి కేంద్ర రాజకీయాలను ఆదేశించగల స్థితికి చేరుకున్నాడు కానీ తెలుగు జాతిని నిండుగ వెలుగు జాతిగా మాత్రమే చూడగలిగాడు. రాష్ట్రంలో ఇతర ప్రాంతాలు రాష్ట్రానికి పరంపరగా ముఖ్యమంత్రుల్నీ దేశానికి రాష్ట్రపతుల్ని, ప్రధానుల్ని ఇస్తుండగా ఒకరిద్దరు అప్రధానమైన ముఖ్యమంత్రుల్ని స్వల్పకాలానికి మాత్రమే ఇవ్వగలిగింది కోస్తాంధ్ర. తోటి వారిని కూడగట్టుకోగలిగిన నేర్పు లేకపోవడమూ ఎవరినైనా సరే అనుసరించడం ఇష్టం లేని స్వతంత్ర దృక్పథం ఉండడమూ ఎవరి ప్రయోజనాలు వారు చూసుకోవడమే కానీ మొత్తం ప్రాంతానికి నిర్దిష్ట లక్ష్యాన్ని రూపొందించుకోవాలనే ప్రాంతీయ స్పృహ లేకపోవడమూ కోస్తాంధ్ర సంతరించుకున్న లక్షణాలు. ఇంత ప్రజా ఉద్యమం జరుగుతున్నప్పటికీ ఉన్న పరిస్థితుల్లోంచి ఒక్క ప్రజానాయకుడూ ఉద్బూతం కాకపోవడం గతానికి కాదు భవిష్యత్తుకు కూడా సూచిక అయితే అది తప్పకుండా ప్రమాద హెచ్చరిక అవుతుంది.
ఈ పరిస్థితుల సారాంశం ఏమిటంటే కోస్తాంధ్ర మిగిలిన ప్రాంతాల కంటే భిన్నమైన అస్తిత్వాన్ని కలిగి ఉంది.
అట్లాంటి కోస్తాంధ్ర అన్నిటినీ కలుపుకోవాలనే లక్ష్యాన్ని కలిగి ఉండడం ఆత్మహత్యా సదృశమౌతుంది. సమైక్యమనే ఆదర్శం కోస్తాంధ్రను ఇతర ప్రాంతాల మీద ముఖ్యంగా హైదరాబాద్ నగరం మీద మరింత ఆధారపడేటట్లు చేస్తుంది. మరొకరు ఆశిస్తున్న నగరం మీద ఆధారపడడం తీవ్ర అభద్రతకు దారితీసి భవిష్యత్తు దృశ్యాదృశ్యమై పోతుంది. విభజన ఇప్పటికైనా కోస్తాంధ్రకు తనదైన ప్రాదేశిక అస్తిత్వాన్ని ఇస్తుంది. ఒక రాజకీయ నాయకత్వాన్ని అనివార్యం చేస్తుంది. ఒక రాజధానిని వాగ్దానం చేస్తుంది. తనలోకి తాను చూసుకుని తన శక్తుల్నీ, బలహీనతల్నీ అవకాశాల్నీ ప్రమాదాల్నీ గుర్తించేటట్లు చేస్తుంది. లక్ష్యాలు, గమ్యమూ పునర్ నిర్వచించబడతాయి. స్వేచ్ఛ లభిస్తుంది. ఒక దిశా నిర్దేశం జరిగి అడుగులు సరికొత్తగా పడతాయి.
విభజన జరిగి హైదరాబాదును కోల్పోవడం వల్ల కొన్ని నష్టాలు, కొన్ని కొత్త సమస్యలూ ఉత్పన్నం కావొచ్చు. అయితే అవి పరిష్కారానికి అతీతమైనవేం కావు. విభజనను అంగీకరించవలసివచ్చినప్పుడు 'అవసరం నూతన ఆవిష్కరణని అనివార్యం చేస్తుంది' అనే నానుడి వర్తిస్తుంది. స్వతంత్ర ప్రతిపత్తి గల ప్రాదేశిక విభాగం ఏర్పడడం, దాన్ని నడిపించడానికి ఒక కేంద్రకం ఆవిర్భవించడమే ఆ అవసరం. ఈ అవసరం ఇవ్వాళ తెలంగాణ నాయకులో ప్రజలో కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వమో కల్పించింది కాదు. ఇది వెయ్యేళ్ళ అవసరం. ఇది వెయ్యేళ్ళ అనుభవం.
కొత్త రాజధాని ఒక ఇన్వెన్షన్ (ఆవిష్కరణ) అవుతుంది. ఒక శాస్త్రీయమైన సత్యాన్ని ఆవిష్కరించడం లేదా ఒక సాంకేతిక నిర్మాణాన్ని సాధ్యం చేసుకోవడం వంటిది. హైదరాబాద్ నాలుగు వందల సంవత్సరాల క్రితం పరిమిత సాంకేతిక పరిజ్ఞానంతో నిర్మాణం ప్రారంభమైన నగరం. అన్ని నగరాల మాదిరిగానే చెప్పుకోదగిన ప్రణాళిక లేకుండానే అభివృద్ధి చెందిన నగరం. ఇవ్వాళ విపరీతంగా పెరిగిన రద్దీని తట్టుకోలేక ట్రాఫిక్ జామ్లతోనూ, సరైన డ్రైనేజీ వ్యవస్థ లేక కురిసిన కొద్దిపాటి వర్షానికే కాలువలుగా మారిపోయే రహదార్లతోనూ సతమతమౌతున్న నగరం. దీనికి ప్రత్యామ్నాయంగా నిర్మించుకోబోయే ఆధునిక నగరం కనీసం రాబోయే రెండు మూడు వందల సంవత్సరాల అవసరాలను తీర్చగలిగే విధంగా రూపొందించుకునే అవకాశం కట్టెదుట నిలచి ఉంది. రాజధాని అనగానే విశ్వవిద్యాలయాలు, విద్యా సంస్థలు, ఆస్పత్రులు ఇత్యాది పౌర అవసరాలను తీర్చగలిగేదై ఉండాలనే ఆలోచన అవసరం లేదు. రాజధానిని కేవలం పాలనా యంత్రాంగానికి పరిమితమైన కేంద్రంగా ఉంచుకుని ఇతర అవసరాలను తీర్చే విధంగా సమీప పట్టణాల్ని అభివృద్ధి పరచుకునే అవకాశం ఉంది.
ఎదురవుతున్న నూతన రాజధాని నగర నిర్మాణం అనే సవాలును సీమాంధ్రులు వెయ్యేళ్ళ అనుభవం దృష్ట్యానైనా స్వీకరించాలి. ఈ సందర్భంగా కోల్కాతా నగర నిర్మాణం మూడు గ్రామాల్ని కలపడంతో ప్రారంభమైందని, కొద్దిపాటి ఎకరాల భూమిని కొనుగోలు చేయడంతో మద్రాసు రేవూ, నగరమూ ఆరంభమయ్యాయనీ, బొంబాయి అభివృద్ధికి పూనుకోక ముందు అది కేవలం రేవు మాత్రమేనని ఈ మూడు మహా నగరాలు మూడు శతాబ్దాల క్రితం ఉనికిలోనే లేవని గుర్తుచేసుకోవడం అప్రస్తుతం కాకపోగా స్ఫూర్తిదాయకం కూడా.
చారిత్రకంగా నస్టపోయిన దాన్ని భర్తీచేసుకోవడం ఈ యుగ లక్షణం. కోల్పోయిన ఆత్మగౌరవాన్నీ సామాజిక స్థానాన్నీ దళితులు ఆక్రమించుకుంటున్నారు. మహిళలు జెండర్లో రెండవ స్థానం అనేది లేకుండా చేస్తున్నారు. వెనుకబడిన ప్రాంతాలు స్వతంత్ర ప్రతిపత్తితో ఎదగడానికి ఉద్యమిస్తున్నాయి. ఈ నేపథ్యంలో సీమాంధ్ర ఒక అస్తిత్వ స్పృహతో తనకు ఉన్నదేమిటో, లేనిదేమిటో గుర్తించాలి. అందుకు గతంలోకి చూడాలి. వర్తమానాన్ని అందిపుచ్చుకోవాలి. భవిష్యత్తును నిర్మించుకోవాలి. వర్తమానం గతంతో చేసే నిరంతర సంభాషణే చరిత్ర అంటున్నాడు ప్రముఖ చరిత్రకారుడు ఇ.హెచ్.కార్. అవును, చరిత్ర అంటే గతం కాదు, భవిష్యత్తు.
- కొప్పర్తి వెంకట రమణమూర్తి
రాజధాని విషయంలో మీరు చెప్పినది నగ్న సత్యం
ఐతే నాయకత్వం విషయంలో సరిగా ఆలోచించ లేదు
1972 జై ఆంధ్ర ఉద్యమం, తరువాత 1982 లో కొత్త నాయకత్వం వచ్చింది
ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ మొత్తంలో బడుగు బలహీన వర్గాలలో రాజకీయ చైతన్యం వచ్చింది
ఐతే ఈ నాయకత్వాన్ని చాల వర్గాలు కుల ఆదిపత్యంగా చిత్రీకరిమ్చాయి
ఆశ్చర్యం ఏమిటంటే బడుగు బలహీన వర్గాలు కూడా అదే అభిప్రాయానికి వచ్చాయి
ఆంధ్ర రాష్ట్రంలోను, ఆంధ్రప్రదేశ్ రాష్ట్రంలోను మొదట్లో అధిష్టానానికి అతి విధేయత చూపిన వారు లేరు
ఒకటి రెండు దశాబ్దాలు బహిరంగంగా సాష్టాంగం పడి , చీవాట్లు చీదరింపులు పడేంత విధేయత చూపారు
1983 తరువాత మళ్ళీ పరిస్థితి మారింది
గత మూడు సంవత్సరాలలో ఒక వర్గం నుండి కాలికింద చెప్పులా పడి ఉండే నాయకత్వాన్ని తయారు చేసుకున్నారు
ఒకటి రెండు దశాబ్దాలు ఆంధ్రలో ఏమీ జరగదు కేవలం అధిష్టానం అడుగులకు మడుగులు వత్తడం తప్ప
Unfortunately lot of people seem to assume that building a capital is easy, setting up industries is easy and attracting investments is easy.
Building a world class capital is more of a romantic idea than a realistic one.
Something good may happen in every historic turn. The British gave us railways, English language, and parilamentary democracy. But at what cost? Being their subjects for 200 years? The Moghals gave us Tajmahal. Claps! So the bifurcation of AP that is done for no valid reason would give Seemandhras a Capital city, a power center. At what cost? The division will put Seemandhras economically, educationally a generation or two behind. The bad outweighs the good in this sordid story of state division.
Apart from the above, I would say the posting by Sri RamanaMurthy is educational and thought provoking. Thanks to the author.
ట్రైబ్యునళ్లు ఎక్కడైనా నీటి సమస్యను తీర్చాయా?: కేంద్రానికి రైతు నేతల ప్రశ్న
రాష్ట్ర విభజన వల్ల సాగునీటి కోసం రైతుల మధ్య వివాదాలు వస్తాయని రైతు సంఘం నేతలు స్పష్టం చేశారు. కృష్ణా జిల్లా హనుమాన్ జంక్షన్ లో జరుగుతున్న రైతు గర్జన సభలో వారు మాట్లాడుతూ.. ట్రైబ్యునళ్లు దేశంలో ఎక్కడైనా నీటి సమస్యలు తీర్చాయా? అని కేంద్రాన్ని నిలదీశారు. విభజనకు ఏ ప్రాతిపదికన కాంగ్రెస్ ఆమోదం తెలిపిందో స్పష్టం చేయాలని వారు ప్రశ్నించారు. తక్షణం విభజన ప్రతిపాదనను ఉపసంహరించుకోవాలని వారు కేంద్రానికి సూచించారు.
This is the reason, telangana separatists cleverly mention river water sharing agreements between India and Pakistan and not interstate water disputes such as Kaveri to support their argument.
No Govt. resource can be utilized to find a solution unless the decision of separation is taken by the Govt. Now matter how much one tries to blackmail the Govt..they cannot entertain the discussion of sharing…
CM who talks about Telugu Jaathi…forcing govt offices to hoist Telugu flag giving lectures at telugu function….has never learned to read or write Telugu language in his whole life…what an irony…
అదే మరి తెలుగు జాతి గొప్పదనం
ఎవడో కోస్తాంధ్ర నుంచి వచ్చి నేను తెలంగాణా వాడిని అన్నాడు
ప్రాంతం ప్రాతం వాడి వెనక గొర్రెల మందలా పడ్డారు
ఇది అంతే!
Agree…and hope they do the good for real and not be superficial are marketing….
“నాకు భాష రాదన్నోడు, నా యాసను ఎక్కిరించినోడు
సిగ్గు లేకుండా ఈరోజు కలిసి ఉందామంటున్నాడు”: Marathi Kukka Kaloji (Telugu prajalani vidakottinandhuku award)
Jai Telangana
what is Pranthiya "asthithvam" ..and why is it desirable ? we formed telugu state based on telugu identity and thats enough. what next "caste asthithvam" ? village asthithvam ?
we cant go on like that.
correction an Andhra state was formed…does not matter..but basically it did not empower one whole big region…now will it go to the village…yes…in the form that is allowed by the constitution…and is the vision of Gandhi.
Will the cabinet approve and move the T note forward today? If it passes the cabinet, then, I should not be suggesting this, but your only option will be Rahul G I guess, only if you can convince him…I suspect that such letters as above is not good enough…
Cabinet note was bound to come. Otherwise cong will not have any credibility after all this. I think we all agreed it here earlier itself. Seems you are worried who can stop the division at this point.
. There are two approaches after this.
In one of the approach the only one who can stop the division is not Rahul. It will be none other than KCR! :) and you will see it how. Actual rough part of the game is just beginning.
Can anyone dare to project possible cities as future capital of SA, in the hypothetical scenario of separation?
What is there to Dare about this. It will be Hyderabad.
I do not see any discussion on what could be the potential capital of SA. Many a times SA debaters question what can be their future capital and if the other person suggests a name then they pounce on them….
I propose an in person meeting of all the bloggers on this website once this issue is settled….
I am amazed at the trust being shown towards Govt. headed by UPA. Lot of us are believing that Govt. will think of all people, will do what is right, will treat all people equally, etc…
None of that is true. The govt. is run by a group of selfish people who do not have any regard to constitution or governance.
The best example is the just withdrawn ordnance. Had Rahul Gandhi not said nonsense, it would have become a law and mind you, with the help of BJP. The BJP was hand-in-glove with Congress on this bill.
I will not be surprised if the Telangana bill is not sent to the Assembly at all. Even if it is sent, Botsa and a group of donkeys will support it. All they need is an assurance that Botsa will become CM of Andhra state for the 3 to 4 months before the elections.
On the pretext of illness of his mother, Kishore Chandra Deo is excusing himself from todays meeting. He has a great excuse to cover himself in the future.
whether we trust or not we have to live with our Govt. as we do not have an alternative Govt.
Do you agree with what Rahul Gandhi said or not?
What was Rahul Gandhi doing when the Ordnance was being prepared? If he so influencial, why was he not consulted before? I am sure he was consulted and he supported it.
This whole drama was to position him as a great man and capable. Manmohan became a fool once again.
Agreed…shows his immaturity.
AMRAO garu,
I am sorry to use these words.
Since 2006 both state and central governments were working for selfish ends only.
I kept on telling this to all my friends but hardly anybody agreed. The reason was simple.
We all are blinded by the economic growth witnessed sine 2002/3. Actually it HAPPENED but we assume that it was ACHIEVED by government, i.e. ruling party. The so called welfare schemes pushed the status of poor to beggers. They were not at all bothered.
Only one of my friends agreed with me. We arrived at one phrase which rather unparliamentary.
The decent version of it is కడుపు కాలినప్పుడే జనాలు కళ్ళు తెరుస్తారు
This gang rape of Andhra Pradesh will not be tried in any court.
Hyderabad is for all telugu people as well…
Is the center trying to play games with SA politicians? As per ABN, HYD as a 10 year joint or common capital aspect will be a separate bill….
You would be happy to know that the concept of Joint or Common capital means the govt. of the newly formed Seema Andhra state will be given 4 buildings in Hyderabad on rental basis for 10 years.
Nothing more than that.
I suppose that is the reason they are setting it up as a separate bill so there can be a debate as to other aspects such as revenue sharing, land allotment around HYD which is very crucial for SA politicians…
I think you can stop the nonsense about SA politicians and Hyderabad.
I am not a SA politician. I have been living in Hyderabad for the past 33 years. My relatives also live in Hyderabad and we number more than 200 families. All of us are against the division. We believe we will face lot of problems with this division. We believe this division demand is only to get control of Hyderabad and nothing to do with the problems of Telangana people.
You or Jai never answered how many new govt jobs will be created if a separate state is created.
The only answer we get is all problems under the sun will be solved once the state is divided and Telangana state will be utopia.
This is the hard truth. We and many families like us settled in Hyd since mid sixties feel extremely insecure with the kind of hatred spread to separate T.
AMRAO,
Why should you have any problems, it is very sad that you did not understand the hearts of T people for 33 years. They have more giving nature than taking. You will see the news in the near future how T politicians, especially Hyd politicians, act and ensure peace and harmony among citizens. Can you list some of the problems you foresee? In all this ordeal the people living in HYD have the least to worry…
T or Hyd politicians may not be as highly qualified as SA politicians academically, but they are sure dil-daar when it comes to public service and or mingling with people and ensuring harmony.
>> it is very sad that you did not understand the hearts of T people for 33 years. They have more giving nature than taking.
BIG JOKE. see the way the politicians have spoken after the july 30th announcement. They say it is for telangana package has to be given because they were lost in AP. They don’t even have a heart to acknowledge the problems of seemandhra in case of division.
Why national news channels are not highlighting the United Andhra agitation at all…. which is going on very strongly and which is happning since long…… y only telangana supporting news in flashing on national channel????? y so??? isn`t it a question mark on media`s fair deal?????????????? a big “?“ really sad thing i came to know i used to feel that media is fair with all but faced really a black truth
Above is some one's question?
My Answer: Because all media is in the control of T people. They are multilingual whereas Andhra people do not know Telugu itself. Look at Hari Krishna's shame in the parliament. Compare it with Rapolu, Dasoju, KTR etc. The Andhras are not able to communicate to the national media or the international media and not even to the regional media (90% in T hands, Newspapers, TV, Press).
What is your answer?
తప్పినోల్లందరు స్చూళ్ళు పెట్టేశారు
పాసైనోల్లు వాటిల్లో టీచర్స్ అయిపోయారు
– Sunil in film atadu
Lalu will continue in jail. Sad he can not vote for Telangana bill.
http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2012-03-30/news/31261254_1_telangana-issue-form-telangana-separate-state
RSS slammed AP BJP unit for T Bias..
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/rss-pulls-up-state-bjp-leaders-for-t-bias/article5193943.ece
It could be a public stunt. But at least have positive approach.
This is how political parties fool the people. Both Congress and BJP.
http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/protecting-convicted-mps-bjp-wanted-it-alleges-government-427023?pfrom=home-lateststories
AMRAO garu,
once again my apologies.
TINA factor. This is what all congress politicians from RSA suffering today.
There may be merit in congress claim in link you provided. But it obscures the fact that it was government initiated the oridnance and called all party meet. Rest is known to everyone.
But entire media ganged up with congress and shifting blame to BJP.
AP was split exactly using same technique.
More such things will happen in UPA III which certain in 2014.
In case of division, enjoy the fun.. How telangana is going to deal with water disputes arise with atleast 5 states and most probably 6 states and an union territory.. Doomed.
Who cares sir?
First thing is our idiots, i.e. AP government, should leave Hyderabad. Joint capital would do no good.
In fact it will end up loss of business and revenue to the AP state w.r.t floating population to capital.
Even more dangerous was new capital will never be built.
Today the central govt. made me feel I am an unwanted Indian. Cant say more.
After I wrote this, I saw TV9. Chalasani also said the same thing. Central Govt. made Seema Andhra people feem they are not citizens of this country any more.
Yes we are unwanted for more than one reason.
The real pity is we do not even know how to react to it.
I wrote in a previous comment GANG RAPE.
I ma forced to modify GANG RAPE including fa…..
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/6-regions-that-make-karnatakas-political-map/64203-3.html
Tulunadu
Kodavanadu
Hyderabad-Karnataka
Mumbai-Karnataka,
Central Karnataka,
Mysore state-Karnataka
Coastal Karnataka
Bangalore
These are the regionalistic divisions of karnataka even today.
But the only best thing that Maharashtra and Karnataka did is not shift a capital or make a capital in a suppressed Nizam region. If they had done the same, then they would have seen the same non-sense that is happening now in AP.
Center wanted to put this issue to rest once and for all… I strongly believe they will do everything to support both states equally especially SA until their rev stream is established clearly. With so many strong businessmen particularly in infra industry, I have no doubt that SA will have a good Govt. infra soon. Dont jump on me, as I clearly understand the sour feelings…for all practical purposes HYD is for all telugu people
Buddy, I am all for MIM. And my whole family is going to vote for them. They account 150 people in Hyd. Jai MIM. They are the only ones that can do justice to Andhras in Hyd and in other parts of Naizam.
AMRAO garu, Naveen garu, P.Rao garu, Prabhakar garu, heed my advise, you will see the fruits. My friend who is mus said AIMIM is planning on attracting all the Seemandhras.
We are happy at least some one is with us.
I am not sure who but the people of Seema Andhra living in Hyderabad will have to look for a party that will save us from the demons of Telangana.
THERE WOULD BE NO DIFFERENCE TO THE LIVES OF PEOPLE OF TELANGANA. ONLY THE PEOPLE OF SA ARE GOING TO BE LOOTED AND FORCED TO LIVE LIKE TELUGUS IN TAMILNADU.
You got to be sure AMRAO garu at least this time in voting. If seemandhras in Nizam state vote for MIM, they will be protected. And in that event the seemandhras will be helping the people of nizam state also, by making a Ganga Jamna Tahzeeb dreamt by T heroes Deshapathi, Dasoju, KCR, KTR, Sujai, Siddhareddy, Prof.Haragopal, Jai, GK, Vidyasagar, Konatham, madabhushi, juluru, cnaryana reddy, tjacs, sravan goud, kavith and millions of other people.
Mus keep their word if wowed by god. They are best in terms of keeping their word.
A vote to MIM is a vote to Congress only.. Unfortunately for people of seemandhra there is no way they can avenge congress, either in their state or in telangana
At the national level you cannot help, Congress or BJP, they all have played with the sentiments of seemandhras. At the regional level, I will guarantee you it will only be MIM that will do the justice. If TRS comes it will make the lives of seemandhras shit. I advised my family and extended family that TRS and TJAC will play sweet friend games which no one should fall for. Jai MIM is my nara from now onwards.
MIM Sahabs,
Please field your candidates from Gunturpalles in warangal, Nizambad, and Kurnool palles in Mahbubnagar. You get are 100% votes.
MIM votes now account for 45% in Hyd alone. With Seemandhra it will jump by 10% i.e 55%. If they can attract other communities like Hindi etc, They can get 75%.
Jai MIM.
Chee, a vote for MIM? MIM is the razakar party. They already called for urdu as first language of Telangana.
You kcr people really have no shame. A vote for MIM is an insult to all the Telangana Telugus who suffered under nizam. Remember what razakars did to your women. P.V. Narasimha Rao was from Telangana and detested MIM for the same reason.
MIM is the most communal party in India. They are anti-hindu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Regions_of_Karnataka
I wish people of andhra should not accept any package or special funds from central govt as a 'condolence'. It is an insult
What package? No package.
Shinde says they will guarantee the fundamental rights of people of all regions. How?
Just eye wash political statements.
I second that Satya garu. It is okay if they prosper by their own. Let it take 50 years to prosper and build a capital but they should not accept the package (but our beggars will). Give that package to the people of nizam state as they worked hard and "peacefully" and "truthfull" earned their state. We will think that is just one other loss we incurred out of so many. Big deal.
Satya garu, please let your family to vote for MIM. Thank you
Deep feeling of being betrayed…. no.. not just betrayed.. a feeling of being ignored completely is what making it more painful..
Vote MIM and you will feel like Amrutanjanam.That is the only balm for you now. There is nothing to lose for us anyways. Only thing is we get a good future and assurance to live in Hyd and other regions of Nizam state.
Finally the Cabinet note is announced. But are the Seemandhra beggars going to get the occupied regions (Bhadrachalam Constituency, Aswaraopet Constituency, Munagala, Huzurnagar, Nagarjuna sagar south, etc) OR will they make it LOC OR will they award it to TRS as a bounty for winning the war of "Justice" OR will they serve as TRSs threat to Congress for alliance.
I think the Seemandhra people must for a Beggars rally from Kashmir to Kanyakumari. T people have won by turning lies into truths. But Seemandhra beggars are not even inclined towards claiming what truthfully is theirs.
Justice served.
Beggar Medhavi Chalasani begs for those regions. Beggar medhavi chalasani gadi brathuku kukka brathukey.
Chakravarthy what is your say on this. Come back now from your eventful unfruitful adventure. Visalabeggars association is what yours is infact.
I think the seemandhras deserved it very well. They have voted for congress since 1900s constantly. And they got their gift for being loyal. They have been watching movies and behaving carelessly while the whole T-"Satyagraha" movt was happening. They deserved it. They should have not even gotten the 10yrs joint capital thing. Now those occupied regions should also go to T as they deserve it, no matter how they got it by stealing or lying, they did hardwork.
Chakravarty gaaru,
now Teleugu people will go down as THIEVES in Telangana history. Thanks to great leaders from the two regions who know nothing but money.
But I am not sorry. I would like to thank you for taking pains in proving that we are not stolen anything. That leaves me free from sense of guilt.
As far as I am concerned we are not same but different Telugu and Telangana.
Even though it does not matter I continue to feel proud about Kakatiyas. Demise of whose dynasty led to two tribes Telugus and Telanganas.
Telugus survived multiple rulers and evolved. And Telanagans chose to be stagnant.
There is always silver lining about everything. We accept certain drawbacks and inferiorities of own people.
Henceforth I am not burdened with such things
A stagnant culture
All noise, ever sad music and literature
A legacy that cannot deifferentiate between ruler and oppressor
A culture that cannot keep track of its own history.
Nice participating in these debates. Which are very educating. Came across some uncultured brutes too who demonstrated how bad the cyberspace is.
I wish you happy life
once again thanking you and all.
GOOD BYE
Sir, our fight is not over. We need to stand by Chakravarthy garu till the end.
Satya Garu,
Time to wake up. We are being ruled by third rate people. Can not expect any thing better. If the rulers had any wisdom, they would have invited people of SA to understand their problems. They did not choose to.
The disintegration of values, ethics, honesty, etc… is reflected by just one recent event, the proposal and withdrawl of Ordnance on criminals.
When India celebrated its 60th Independence day, there were many articles where foreign observers commented that, in 1947, they did not expect India to be united for 60 years. It was a wonder for them. The current circumstances, not just this division, give rise to indications of disintegration of this nation.
Many of us thought the Divide and Rule policy ended in 1947. Having worked with the British for a long time, Congress seems to have absorbed it in its DNA.
I read some where that IN A DEMOCRACY, PEOPLE GET A GOVERNMENT THEY DESERVE. We probably do not deserve any thing better.
I have always appreciated your ability to research and bring out the facts and also your patience. I am sure you will do well in your life.
I am glad I had an opportunity of sharing my thoughts with gentlemen like you, Chandra Garu, P. Rao garu and Prabhakara Rao garu.
Thanks for your time.
Best wishes for you too. Thanks for your thoughts.
An ordinance can be taken back government just as one member of congress brushes it off. Why not afterall a CWC anouncement????. Primer Minister supports 'nonsense' remarks as freedom of speech. When Kiran more gracefully puts argument on behalf of 5 crores people, it amounts to defying the high command…Who says Congress is a National party? shame on them..it is a pakka faltu family owned party…it is proved time and again.
Which selfrespect are T people talking about??. If CM elected by your own region hails from SA region they have a problem..thier self respect is at stake.. but if a person not even of Telugu origin controls them in entirety they have no issues..their self respect is not compromised? welcome to this show of Delhi Nawabs…central government can split any state to its likes(thanks to this great provision in constitution). Delhi nawabs..they can split us.. grab our riches(I heard Rajsekhar reddy used to send tons of rupees to central every month).. play around our sentiments..grab our industries and put them other states…their very own goverments grab our waters and increase the hieghts and leave only flood water to us..T guys have no any problem..no one will even mention this…..their very own leaders lick thier As* by putting big big hoardings..saying thanks "sonia" while ignoring real sacrifices for this cause..so this is all very much with in toleratated self respect?? Why the so called "self respect"is biased?
Gentlemen,
THere is NO NEED to get unsettled because of cabinet nod for bifurcating AP. This was expected by all of us. Till now it has been the power of the govt at display and not the power of people. India is a democratic parliamentary system with legislature and judiciary. State division is not going to happen by a group of ministers or parties. The division WILL NOThappen before 2014 for below reasons.
1. The quid co pro with T separatists votes by CWC group will not stand in High court or supreme court as they dont have an answer to why Telangana has to be created and the basis for bifurcation states in India or AP. Each one of the CWC member will be dragged to court individually and that itself delays the entire process.
2. Assembly resolution on this will be defeated by 200 to 94
3. Bill is not going to be passed in parliament as it is as it has not addressed all issues and BJP can not proceed with this as it is.
4. Most importantly KCR will be a stumbling block for any progress. If he joins congress TRS will be taken over by the other guy.
If not all these then I feel there much speculated "brahmastram" that will be used.
If you look at the events they are following the history in 1969 and 1972. Unfortunately,historically from 1952 the agitations in SA have not been peaceful at crucial times. This part worries me more.
Chandra garu,
I read The God Father when I was in my 7th class. The story, as you might already know, is set in early 1900s. In that novel, this is what God Father says: JUDGES CAN BE BOUGHT LIKE BROADS ON THE STREET.
If Judges in early 1900s in New York were like that, in 2013, our MLAs could be no different.
I just heard Pallamraju say: I offerred to resign but the PM asked me not to take a decision in haste.
I am glad I had an opportunity of sharing my thoughts with gentlemen like you, Satya Garu, P. Rao garu and Prabhakara Rao garu.
Thanks for your time.
I agree with voting for MIM..it does not matter MIM supports congress – its anway going to be minimal. But MIM effectively stop the greedy pigs from Karimnagar etc raping and pillaging Hyderabad. Its a counter culture to present rapacious telangana culture.
In fact I want you guys thinking about enmasse conversion to Islam from whole of seemandhra. Nothing can shake Delhi more than that – just the threat alone is enough. Just a few dozen dalits converting to Islam in TN bought the whole Hindtuva brigade there. Anyway Hinduism is useless in giving any sort of social security – inspite of sharing caste, gothrams, surnames – so many telangan prefer to identify with Nizam. And in my travels I found Muslims live well – no need to be restricted to Burqa or force ourselves to learn urde/arabic. hinduism will keep us weak and exploited by Delhi.
Kiran, don’t divert the issue by bringing religion into it.
@Satya
Thank you sir, finally sense has prevailed…it was like a Hornets nest here