Dear All,
I am writing to inform you about Andhra Pradesh state formation day celebrations being organized across the United States by the Andhra Pradesh Non-Resident Indians’ Forum (AP NRI).
If you live in the United States, please attend in-person. Bring friends and families along. Please forward this note to your contacts that live in the United States. Attend the event and make your voices be heard against the division of our beloved state. Your active participation will be an inspiration to the integrationists in Andhra Pradesh.
Here are the event details:
Guests coming from India:
Sri Lagadapati Rajgopal (MP)
Sri Teegala Krishna Reddy (Former Mayor of Hyderabad)
Sri Modugula Venugopal Reddy (MP)
Sri Payyavula Keshav (MLA)
Sri Ganta Srinivasarao (MLA)
Sri Adusumilli Jaiprakash (Former MLA)
Sri Somireddy Chandramohan Reddy (Former MLA)
Sri Ghazal Srinivas (Artist)
Venues:
Detroit, Nov 19th: Priya Restaurant
Washington DC, Nov 20th: McNair Elementary School
New Jersey, Nov 21st: Royal Albert’s Palace
Atlanta, Nov 25th: Sai Murali Restaurant
Dallas, Nov 26th: Kokila Indian Cuisine
Bay Area, Nov 28th: Sunnyvale Temple
For further information, go to: http://www.andhrapradeshnri.org
Save Andhra Pradesh
Nalamotu Chakravarthy
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Dear All,
Idhi chusi emantaranna. Lolli chestaraa leka sappudu lekunta okuntaraa. Mari Nalamotu anna ayithee Delhi vurkabatademo(Jara chetulu netthi meedha pettukokee).
http://expressbuzz.com/states/andhrapradesh/srikrishna-report-to-be-subtle-on-telangana/229148.html
KaChaRa gadi matalaki / kutantralaki tapputrova pattina meelati tammullandaru nijam telusukoni mana rashtra bagu kosam patupade varaku LOLLI chestam.
Want to know about Dubai Sekhar, srry our own KaChaRa
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/From-Dubai-Shekhar-to-mover-and-shaker/articleshow/5324903.cms
OR
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/From-Dubai-Shekhar-to-mover-and-shaker/articleshow/5324903.cms
Thanks for sharing the link. It really shows the exemplery determination in his relentless fight against all odds, especially in the midst of cunning indian politics…only a fighter like him could have achieved T.
It is fact that an ordinary T person cannot withstand the basing of A people. Let us all accept that T people at large are not on par in A people in oral/written debate. The creation of these blogs is enought proof of it. So, is the reason for pleading space for T people. Let T people take pride by developing themselves…
oh fighter, ok then let him fight instead of fighting with some innocent students deaths as his kavacha kundalalu.
@T people at large are not on par in A people in oral/written debate.
i totally disagree with this, knowledge is with every one.
Venu Anna & VK Bhai,
Emi Pagalpan bhai idhi. KaChaRa ani matladi mee sangathi endho mee dhimak etlantidho andhariki cheputunnaru lee. Bahut Khoob.
iyalti Paristhithi matladu bhai. Itla chupinchali ante oka Babu Vennupotla gurinchi, Mee Andhra Jagan anna Shava Rajakiyala gurinchi inka atla chala chala rayochu bhai. Iga Rasudo modal pedithe yaadaku pothadhi cheppu. Meru chaduvukunnollu anukuntunna bhai.
Iga itlanti vati gurinche juttu pikkune badalu jara manichiga sonchayinchandi bhai. SKC Report ichinaka emi cheyyalno matlandi bahai.
Meeku KCR ni atla thitti Rakshasha Anandam vasthee inka masthuga vorlukondee. Itlanee ee site unte mathram bekaar iduku ravadam.
KCR నీ KaCaRa అంటే నే నీకు అంత కోపం వచ్చింది , ప్రతీ రోజు ఆంధ్ర వాలని అడమైన తీటులు తీడుతూ ఉంటారు మరీ మాకు ఇంక్యంత కోపం రావాలి . But still we showed the patience, and targeted kcr for dividing state and also the people for his selfishness, but not the telangana people.
బాబు గురుంచి , జగన్ గురుంచి మాకు భాగానే తెలుసు , వాళ్ళకు మదతుగా ఇక్కడ ఎవరు మాట్లాదటం లేదు . కెసిఆర్ గురుంచి కూడా తెలంగాణా వాళ్ళకి భాగానే తెలుసు , తెలియలిసింది అల్లా నీ లాంటి వేర్పాటు వాదులకే .
మేము చదువ కాదు , చదువుతో పాటు సంస్కారుం కూడా నేర్చు కునాం . గురు ఉని చెపుతో కోటే చదువు ఎందుకు , ఆ కళాశాలల్ని ఎమింతారో నీవు చేపరదే .
SKC రిపోర్ట్ ఎచినాక , ఆ రిపోర్ట్ గురుంచి అపుడు మాట్లాడుతము రా భై , ఇపతినుంచే ధనిగురుంచి ఉహాగానాలు ఎందుకు .
తెలంగాణా లో జరిగే ప్రతీ ఒక్కటి ఆంధ్రా వాళ్ళ మీద వేసీ , కుత్రిమ రాక్షస అన్నంధము మీది రా భై , మాది కాదు .
KCR nee KaCaRa ante ne neeku antha kopam vachindi, pratee roju andhra walani adamaina thetulu teedutu untaru maree maku inkyantha kopam raavaali. But still we showed the patience, and targeted kcr for dividing state and also the people for his selfishness, but not the telangana people.
babu gurunchi , jagan gurunchi maku bhagane telusu, wallaku madhatuuga ikkada yevaru matladhatam ledhu. kcr gurunchi kuda telangana wallaki bhagane telusu, teliyalisindhi alla nee lanti verpatu vaadhulake.
memu chaduva kadhu, chadhuvuto paatu samskaarum kuda nerchu kunaam. guru vuni cheputo kote chaduvu enduku, aa kalashalalani yemiantaro neevu cheparadhe.
SKC report echinaka, aa report gurunchi apudu matladutamu raa bhai, ipatinunche dhanigurunchi vuhaganalu yenduku?.
telangana lo jarige pratee okkati andra vaalla medha vesae, kutrima rakshasa annandhamu meedhi raa bhai, maadhi kadu.
@Venu
Coool!
KaChaRa is biggest threat to the peace in Andhra Pradesh. He has made the life in AP miserable. Go and rail about Babu or Jagan that doesn't change the opinion about Kachara aka Dubai Sekhar.
Easy bro…Hope peace will prevail soon…
Can anyone say what A people will lose if T is given, so we can have some positive debate?
I think i already said that in another post. but before starting that debate you also mention what u loose if hyd is not included in Telangana.
Criminals” Not Lifting Cases Against Telangana Agitators Is Breach Of Privilege -Prof. Madabhushi Sridhar
Not withdrawing the criminal cases imposed on students and youth of Telangana during fierce agitation for separate state in 2009, even after the commitment made by the Union Home Minister, is a piece of irresponsive governance and red tape at higher level. Hundreds of young persons are going round the police stations for useless cases. Those criminal cases, legally speaking, do not stand in the courts of law also, because they are not like any other ordinary criminals and there was no malicious intention to commit such crime. A gherao cannot be treated as wrongful confinement, Rasta Roko as intentional obstruction to progress of a nation by blocking transport, ‘down-down’ slogans as defamation, criticism of government as sedition etc. Charging the agitators with crimes is one of the methods of rulers to suppress agitation or to terrorize the people from resorting to such anti-establishment programs. It is quite democratic, reasonable and more so required, to build pressure on Government to take proper decisions.
It is common in a democratic polity, that if political executive does not keep its commitments, people will resort to agitations. Wrong decisions, anti-social activities, perpetuating inequalities, not controlling the price rise, increasing corruption are various reasons people agitate against. Even violent and armed struggles emanate from worst administration and irresponsive and irresponsible governance. Of late, the executive is getting thick skinned to even genuine demands of the people. Mazdoor Kisan Sakthi Sanghatan leader Ms Aruna Roy has explained to a stunning audience how Rajasthan Government spent several lakhs to deny Rs. 1500 to workers as difference in payment of wages which they were genuinely entitled to under equal wages law. It led to a big law and order problem involving armed forces, firings, etc. It happened in Andhra Pradesh many times that employees of APSRTC agitated for improving working conditions and secure an agreement. It is so pathetic that they have to resort to strike for enforcement of that agreement also.
Mr. Chidambaram, as the Home Minister of this country has a Constitutional responsibility as a Constitutional office holder. He has authority to negotiate with agitating leaders like President of Telangana Rasthra Samithi Mr. K. Chandrasekhar Rao. It naturally stems from his authority to commit certain things in the wake of such agitations as done on December 9, 2009. Remember, Indian Home Minister handed over dreaded terrorist Afzal Guru in return to safety of Indians in plane hijacked to Kandhahar. The statement made to media, later reiterated in parliament can become issues of Government commitments which they cannot retreat. It is an open commitment made to an MP, former Minister and President of an agitating party after a prolonged fast unto death. This was also fortified when he made statement in two Houses of Parliament. They have a duty to comply with what they have committed to.
It is not just a political promise by a politician of Congress Party to another politician of TRS. It is not an electoral alliance, which cannot be enforced in a court of law, though it is a moral duty to adhere to what they promised to people. The commitment was made between two constitutional office holders, one the Home Minister the other agitating Parliamentarian which commitment was thereafter reiterated in both the Houses of Parliament. It is not merely a promise, a statement, a commitment, but it became a decision. Any breach of such a decision would amount to breach of privilege of Parliament for which Mr. KCR could issue a notice to speaker of Loksabha against the Home Minister or he could also issue a notice to Speaker of Lok Sabha against the Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Rosaiah, because it is his responsibility to enforce the decision announced by Union Government especially when both center and state are ruled by the same political party. Not keeping the commitment made to an agitating Parliamentarian is a disrespect for an MP and thus to the Parliament itself, as he is an elected representative of people of a duly recognized political party, in a properly conducted election by the Constitutional authority called Election Commission of India. And, also because the Home Minister cannot say one thing to the Parliament and do different outside. It is breach of privilege of the House because it was misled by an untruthful statement, which later became a hollow promise. Hence, not fulfilling the commitment made in the wake of agitation fueled by people support will be a privilege issue. A notice for breach Privileges of Parliament, as granted by Constitution of India is a weapon to force the compliance of commitments in general and for the release of arrested agitators in this particular case.
Union Home Minister also promised carving out of separate State for Telangana and stated that the process had already begun. This is also a major commitment by Union Government. Creation of Telangana State and introduction of Bill in the Parliament for that are more than mere commitment to lifting of cases and releasing the prisoners. It involves several other political and executive questions. Whether weapon of Breach of Privileges could be used for this commitment also? First of all one need to establish the ‘breach’ to go for privileges issue. Home Minister can argue, and is arguing, that they are committed to and the process is on, whereas, the non-withdrawal of cases is a case of clear breach. Demanding and agitating for fulfillment of that commitment to create a separate state or opposing it, is a political activity which law does not prevent.
Once, a senior police officer was speaking on security issues against terrorism in International scenario in NALSAR University of Law. He presented Mahatma Gandhi, Pandit Nehru, Subhash Chandra Bose as part of the history of terrorism. Eminent Constitutional Law Professor Pola Koteswar Rao, (died recently) who sat in the first row, rose even before he completed presentation and without mincing words questioned the officer for listing Mahatma and other national leaders among the terrorists. The officer has to swallow the words and the discussions in seminar took a new turn. This reflects the attitude of persons working with authorities. Those who fight for freedom are not terrorists and those who organize rasta roko are not against the transport. One thing the rulers should understand, those who agitate for a cause are not criminals.
It is illegal, unethical and immoral for Union Government to sit over the issue of lifting of criminal cases, and for those political parties along with their leaders, who supported the cause and then back-dropped for opportunistic political reasons. Whole episode reflects the current politics without any commitment to either values or their own statements. (27th August 2010) (Author can be reached at professorsridhar@gmail.com)
Please correct the TItle as below:
“Mr. Home Minister, the Agitators are not Criminals” Not Lifting Cases Against Telangana Agitators Is Breach Of Privilege -Prof. Madabhushi Sridhar
Mr. Home Minister – One more KaChaRa. Students should be held responsible for the damaged caused to public & private properties. They have no right to attack.
Another KaChara statement,
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/national/chidambaram-blames-migrants-delhi-crime-retracts-590
Hope your anger does not over power your wisdom.
same to u
Samaikhya Andhra Enduku, Evarikosam – Kadempally Sudhakar
…. only 100 families control the state of Andhra Pradesh being stationed in Hyderabad. The main business areas: Film and entertainment controlled by only 5 families (one community)! worth 1500 cores annually. They decide the fate of distributors, exhibitors by producing third rate movies (97 %) unlike Malayalam, Tamil movies. Children of these five families are heroes and do not allow others irrespective of Andhra/ Telangana/Seema regions (true smaikhyavadulu!). All of them have got lands and other subsidies from Govt in the name of development but misused to the core. This is the group not interested in Andhra or Telangana but self, but of late they are all in politics directly or indirectly.
Bulk Drug / Pharma industry controlled by 15 families. They are the beneficiaries of the govt in terms of lands and subsidies and set up industries in and around Hyderabad. Though they are from Andhra, but they are not interested in setting up industry in their own area. Why? As a result of their industry in surroundings of Hyderabad, entire RR dist, half of Medak and parts of Mahabubnagar dists have been seriously polluted. It is alleged that concerned Govt departments are in their pockets hence laws of the land does not apply to them. Most of these industrilists worked in responsible positions in erstwhile public sector companies like IDPL which were closed down due to their invaluable contribution. Employees in their companies are from their own place not locals. It is not out of love they employ people from Andhra but to exploit them fully by paying merge salaries, inhuman working conditions, no unions, no holidays etc. They are here to do business not charity.
Infrastructure (airports/roads, irrigation projects): Controlled by 20 families. The company which built Shamshabad airport, no one heard about it 10 years ago but now they are every where. The company supposedly spent Rs 3000 core on the project, but got 5000 thousand acres of prime agricultural land in Hyderabad for a song (Rs 5000 core). The airport doesn’t run on its own unless there is a good connectivity. The AP govt spent public money Rs 8000 cores on ring roads etc to the airport. The biggest criminal act is Rs 600 core spent on PV express where only cars are allowed mainly meant for the airport. Now the airport is being used for motors races, music programmes, and hotels. Another act of vandalism is Hyderabad Metro project to MYTAS (SATYAM) the Ulta Company! We have seen what happened with its original company. Let the Govt release the details of contactors project wise in the state then people know who these people are and where are they from. People also know who the beneficiaries of Nagarjunsagar projects are and what they are doing now in the state. They have not even spared Lord Venkateswara.
Real Estate: Another 20 families control this business mostly from Rayalaseema, Nellore and coastal Andhra. What is the link between Satyam bust and real estate? One MP belonging to costal dist building real estate in the name of SEZ that’s too on Wakf lands who was also allegedly involved in insurance scam. Software companies are given hundreds of acres of land in Hyderabad in the name of development where as Microsoft USA in Seattle operates on a 50 acre land. Are these software companies or real estate companies?
Hotels and leisure industry: Controlled by 10 families and print and electronic media is controlled by another 10 families which have interests in everything in the state not just in Telanagana. Hospitals and health services controlled by 10 families which are making killing money through Arogyashree scheme (scam!) and you ask yourself on corporate hospital services in the state.
Transport: Controlled by 10 families. They also constantly try to weaken APSRTC so that the entire system will be in their hands. It is also alleged that one operator takes 10 permits from RTA and run 100 services! Accorss the state, a good case for Samikhyavadam
Education: 10 families control intermediate education which has become an industry worth Rs 2000 core just on EMCET coaching. Tamilnadu and Karnataka abolished common entrance test for professional courses but this mafia in AP still lobby for EMCET where supply is more than demand which is against the basic principle of market economy. They have destroyed children rights and life in AP by redefining education like running poultry forms. They have also started concept schools which no one knows what is the concept? It is effecting all in AP not just alone Telangana. You know why they want samaikhyavadam.
Another 250 families of central services (IAS and IPS) facilitate the above group’s interests in Hyderabad. Another 10,000 Andhra employees (Govt)(section officers, clerks etc) support these groups. Rests all are ordinary citizens who live in Hyderabad like any other people with whom no one has problem.
White Collar crimes: Krishi Bank, Satyam, Mytas, Metro rail, Prudential Bank, GTB, Nagarjuna Finance, Margadharshi Chit fund, many real estate scams, irrigation contracts, Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan, Scams at Tirumala (they have not even spared the lord Balaji). They should know that he doesn’t spare too. Who are these people? They are certainly not belonging to Andhra/Rayalaseema or Telangana. They have no region / religion and they belong to mafia. Do you want to own them?
Hence my dear friends, in the name of Smaikhya Andhra, they are instigating (you) innocent and poor and middle classes of Andhra and rayalaseema people for their survival. If they are doing business legally, nothing to worry not just in Telanagana but any where else. Poor are poor every where irrespective of regions. You should question your leaders why Kurnool, Vizayawada flooded so badly, why so many deaths in Srikakulam, Vijayanagaram. Vizag due to mosquitoes! Why girl child and infant mortality is higher in Anathapur and Kurnool dists. Why there is no drinking water in Rayalaseema, why no BC representation in Rayalaseema at all, for how long you want to be servants of these mafia. Do not sacrifice your valuable lives for factionist’s designs.
Rayalaseema CMs ruled for 22 years but what have they done to Rayalaseema? Factionist, Mining mafia, disgrace to Lord Venkateswara, dominance of one community. Human development indicators in the region are appalling.
>> Software companies are given hundreds of acres of land in Hyderabad in the name of development where as Microsoft USA in Seattle operates on a 50 acre land.
@ Nellutla, Just to mention how foolishly you people write (or those, whose links you take authentically) that you don’t even bother about how silly it appears to the people who know the facts. You (in person) seems dont even care to double check what you post here is correct or not. Forget about correct, you dont even think how reasonable it is?
Only building 27 & 28 of Microsoft campus is more than 50 acres, may be more. There are as many as 100 buildings in Microsoft Redmond campus. 50 acres is not even close to what the world’s biggest software campus is (Redmond building areas is more than 250 acres, and there are so many football, cricket grounds and other recreations). So huge is the establishment of Microsoft in Redmond that they both almost synonymous to each other.
Why did u or he not touched the micro finance industry, SKS mostly controlled by vikram akulla grand son who himself claims warrior in bringing telangana in the list. This is why u want telangana and for them, for how long you want to be servants of these mafia. Do not sacrifice your valuable lives for factionist’s designs.
Continuing from the above (Words of Kadempally Sudhakar)……
Andhra friends your CMs ruled for 24 years, what have they done to the region except chanting still Sir
Arthur Cotton. Recently one MP wanted him to shift to NIMS for treatment. What a shame after 50
years they could not develop a hospital like NIMS which was established by Nizam.
All your leaders criticize KCR and ridicule Telangana and its people. You must also know clearly that
KCR and his party may be for Telangana but Telangana is not KCR. Of course KCR has played a key
role in T movement but there are /were several individuals, teachers, intellectuals, artists, and
community based organizations worked very hard to build the movement you see today.
Telangana people sympathize and empathize with people of Rayalaseema and Andhra for their
struggles in their regions and let us not fight among ourselves for this mafia. You build struggles to
eliminate this mafia as we do in Telangana and let us remain as Telugus. By separate Telangana we are
eliminating mafia from AP not people. It is a universal principle, small is always beautiful.
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Hence come out the Virtual Samaikaya Trap and march towards the betterment of both the States.
Jai Andhra …….. Jai Telangana
If dividing a state is a solution why do not u divide nizam telangana into two states, north with warangal as capital and south with hyderabad and build another NIMS in warangal, so on dividing telangana into two it wil have two NIMS hospitals where as united telanagana will have only one.
Thanks for the advice nellutla. You also will get one more NIMS, Hitech city or airport if you leave hyderabad and build your own capital. Hence please come out of hyderbad is heart of telangana trap and lets live for the betterment of all 3 regions. telangana (without hyderabad), hyderabad and seemandhra.
One funny thing is how you people talk with double standards. on one hand, you say all the water is diverted to Andhra illegally, and all the projects in andhra and seema are completed or closed to completion. (from the esteemed source of 108 facts on telangana).
Now you are approving the statements of sudhakar that andhra had nothing much to talk about except the barrage of cotton. and there are no good hospitals there.
I think we can eliminate the mafia from telugu people even by being united. Infact, by united we will gain more strength against such mafia irrespective of which region they hail from. Why cant you guys accept this proposition and show the telugu strength to the world.
You should question your leaders why Kurnool, Vizayawada flooded so badly, why so many deaths in Srikakulam, Vijayanagaram. Vizag due to mosquitoes! Why girl child and infant mortality is higher in Anathapur and Kurnool dists. Why there is no drinking water in Rayalaseema, why no BC representation in Rayalaseema at all, for how long you want to be servants of these mafia. Do not sacrifice your valuable lives for factionist’s designs. - That's why we don't need to split the state. Its the politics that needs cleansing and get rid of leaders who created these divisions b/w people.
Hey Nellutla
Telangana is neither Ethiopia nor Seemandhra Sweden. Why don't you come up with your own stuff rather than to paste drivel by some Madabhushi .
Chandra Mohan Nellutla says: December 13, 2010 at 2:53 pm
"They should know that he doesn’t spare too. Who are these people? They are certainly not belonging to Andhra/Rayalaseema or Telangana. They have no region / religion and they belong to mafia. Do you want to own them?…………………………..Hence my dear friends, in the name of Smaikhya Andhra, they are instigating (you) innocent and poor and middle classes of Andhra and rayalaseema people for their survival. …………….blah…blahhh"
Mr Nellutla….do you atleast understand what you want to say here!.
India evarikosam?
TRS is making statements like "students okka bangaaru bavishatu nashanum ayipothundhi casula walla". i did not understand to which golden future they are talking about , till yesterday they clamied their is no future (forget golden) for telangana people in AP.
Chidambarum has said to lift cases before dec 9th, assuming the issue is resolved. which tsr itself claims 400. but it asks to lift all the cases as promised by Chidhambarum.(what a change in facts).
At this point in time as the issue is still pending no cases should be removed, but govt should issue that cases filed before sri krishna committee appointed will be lifted later, provided the same person should not get involved in cases after dec 31st and also declare that cases filed after dec 31st will not be lifted at any cost and it should send a strong message.
It is highly irresponsible of the politicians who are asking to lift the cases of vandalism, causing damage to public and private property, damaging shooting equipments, setting ablaze to RTC buses etc.. These are serious offenses and needs stern action irrespective of regions. People whoever wants to agitate through vandalism should start it from their own home. Govt shouldn’t allow students to take it for granted on damaging properties.
Dear All,
So. I could infer that you guys understood only these points from the above article of Prof. Madabhusi Sridhar & Sri. Kadempally sudhakar. My dear Sunil, Venu, Deccani and Satya it would be really better if you could understand the essence of the articles rather than debating on one or two sentences or words that would give you the liberty to divert the core.
The reason for me to post these articles rather than writing on my own has a two fold reasons. You need to understand that I get influenced by good writers & logical thinkers which prompts me to share those with you ( Makes a point clear that it is not just KCR or TRS that influences me). The next reason is to make sure that you guys too read different opinions rather than sticking on to the opinion of one self proclaimed writer boasting of the highly authentic statistics.
I form opinions of my own reading through different documents. I am not here to quarrel or make you guys agree with me for everything.
There is a saying that says " I do not need a friend who nods when I nod, who disagrees when I disagree, My shadow can do lot better than that".
Saying so, I would like to remind you that my postings criticizing the blogs thought process had increased the responses count on this blog.
An incident for you to recollect:
One day in the morning time when all Ranga's companions gone to their homes few gundas came by Bus and killed Ranga brutally. So many conspiracy theories floated about who involved in his murder. After his murder, so many darkest and sad incidents happened in Andhra Pradesh.In the history of Andhra Pradesh never happened before or after there was a loss of 350 crores + and it so happened that nearly after 15 days after his death people were not out of their houses.
It is time for you to answer few questions:
The AP assembly 8 months ago ( Approx) passed a unanimous resolution to remove 14(f). Why is it not implemented till date?
There was a promise to Withdraw cases againt the students. How long do you think the government needed to study and settle them?
Is it worse than removing cases against the goons involved aftermath Rajiv & Indira's Death? Are they more dangerous than withdrawing cases against the looters aftermath V.M Ranga murder? Is it more dangerous than liberating Mr. Gowru?
We need to self-examine our thoughts and think about the grass root level problems? It is not fair to compare our own life style with that of the poor , downtrodden lives and pass on comments that they are the ones causing vandalism & they need to be severely delat with.
No matter how you take it and no matter how you like to divert the issues, I would post some good articles I liked. If you are not interested in the content ignore them.
I would surely ask few questions and would also write up my thoghts too when time permits. Meanwhile its upto the blogger to make sure that a healthy debatate is on.
I have a lot of respect to Madabushi Sridhar, whose articles in Eenadu are impressive for their distinctive legal thought process and logic. And little surprised by this article of him or the point that you are inferring through this article. Before talking on that, a quick note
Everybody agreed on withdrawl of petty cases on the students, like violating 144 rule, staging dharnas, gherao politicians, organizing protests without permissions from authority etc… There is no point of troubling them by such things which may effect their academic career as well as their future aspirations.
Prof Sridhar wrote The context of debate was enforcement of Union Home Minister Chidambaram’s one year old commitment to withdraw cases against Telangana agitators,.. So he didn’t define what and who are considered as agitators? Do everyone who committed serious offenses such as damaging shooting properties, theaters or attacking people or causing disrupt to public with violent acts, causing damage to public and private property and importantly blackmailing for money should be treated alongside with the agitators?
Now the Professor talking about the commitment given by chidambaram to lift the cases. The statement itself is very vague and a later statement in parliament didn’t give any clarity on what sort of cases should withdrawn. If the professor is confident in saying that most of the cases cannot withstand in court of law, it may be his personal view, but that shouldn’t mean that police should not register any cases on agitators in the first place as they cant withstand.
And lastly, Political commitments.. the funniest thing in this country to talk about. There are thousands of instances ministers lied in parliaments and assembly, provided wrong data to the house, given false promises etc.. A simple example can be 9 hr free power to farmers which all CMs promised in AP assembly. But are they getting? If KCR can issue a notice to speaker of parliament or AP assembly let the professor suggest it to him and let things happen in any constistutional manner.
The professor in his enthusiasm in downplaying the violence during agitation and in trying to justify it, went on to quote Even violent and armed struggles emanate from worst administration and irresponsive and irresponsible governance. . In that way, even Maoists or other terrorists can also plea for clemency and is justifiable to fulfill it (of course, now they can demand).
I doubt your authenticity in saying that all the cases (those involving violence too) are withdrawn which followed after the killing of Ranga, still I will take it for granted. But does that mean a wrong doing by the Govt in the past should become the motivation for another such thing at present? shouldn’t we learn from past mistakes? or should be lead by the wrong examples of the past? If that is the case no politician (or even people) can be held guilty in any manner. A person who takes bribe can be escaped by comparing himself with even bigger scam..
>> The AP assembly 8 months ago ( Approx) passed a unanimous resolution to remove 14(f). Why is it not implemented till date?
do you know who has to implement? If so please let us know. The resolution was sent to central govt which has to be shaped into law. 5 years back the same assembly sent a resolution for SC categorization to the center. 6 years back sent another resolution for reservations to SC, ST in muslim and christian religions.. If you know anything on what is the model by center for processing these resolutions (or others from other states) please let us know. what is the point of keep on blaming the state?
>> There was a promise to Withdraw cases againt the students. How long do you think the government needed to study and settle them?
where is the time that you have given for the govt to settle? You start one agitation after another without even aware of the actual issues involved. governments may withdraw cases if they were given enough assurances that the students who involved in such activities will not get in again, and this is just one off case. may be the behavior of the students is not giving them enough confidence for withdrawing the cases.
>> Is it worse than removing cases against the goons involved aftermath Rajiv & Indira’s Death? Are they more dangerous than withdrawing cases against the looters aftermath V.M Ranga murder? Is it more dangerous than liberating Mr. Gowru?
AFAIK, no cases are removed on goons (including big politicians like jagadhish Taitler) after Indira and Rajiv death. They fought the cases till the very end. Lack of evidence is a different matter.
supreme court severely took on the state government on liberating Gowru. your justification is in poor taste. If you agree that in 1969 370 people are killed during agitation and what if the police asks that they have a right to kill equal amount even now?
Lastly, you are very much welcomed to contest the highly boasted statistics of this site. We have given you the required links as well. I really don’t understand why you are spending time on some other articles, but saying the statistics of the site is wrong, still will not bring the facts from the links given.
I least speak about kadempally sudhakar article. If samaikya andhra is benefit for few hunderd families, for whose family benefits is seperate telangana?
Nellutla,
You seem to be in the premise that every one here is bling and deaf to the happenings in
Vijayawada(Rangas death) , or massacre of sikhs during Indiras assasination.
My family was on the receving end during vij riots…Thanks to the neighbours, irrespective of caste,creed who banded together to drive away the looters we were safe and till date we alone know the phycological scars that were suffered and there is a bitter taste lingering the principals were allowed to go scott free we demanded justice and gave up eventually !!!!!!
Jagdish Tytler and Dhawan are walking scott free and there are still questions being asked about their involvemnt .That matter is far from dead thanks to an active sikh community.
Vandalizing state propoerty is no lesser crime .. I dont want to go through an emotional trauma again as I I fear that I am the target ( Just a change of address by victims like me remain the same).
@Justice,
I express my heartful grief on the injustices meted on to you by the mobs aftermath Ranga's Murder. At the same time I urge you not to equate that barbaric attrocities to the part played by students fighting for justice. For the past one year if you have the real spirit to analyse the reality, its easy to understand the spirit of democracy exhibited by Telangana as a whole ( Students, Doctors, Lawyers, All Caste JAC's individually & collectively, Employees, journalists, Teachers……..).
When we could accept a person responsible for 1990 communal roits to be the chief Minister and sing songs of him today, why can't we think rationally about the students?
Think wheteher it is Justice or injustice?
justice says:December 14, 2010 at 1:19 pm
"I fear that I am the target"
Let us avoid unfounded fear. "Fear mongering integrationism" is no answer to "hate mongering seperatism".
@chandra Mohan Nellutla says:
Injustice is meted out to minions like me every day.
I am no fan of YSR or his clan ..agreed that he was the invisible brains behind the 1990 violence so was the self proclaimed voice of telengana Mr VHR.
Rajiv was elevated to the post of PM even after he indirectly supported the sikh riots!!! I think his words were "When a big tree falls there are repercusions"
A Raja is roaming freely for duping the nation while Ramalinga Raju is languising in jail for duping his share holders ( a relative minority compared to Raja's victims). There is no balance in that case either
Politicians do not have caste,creed,region. They belong to the "crook" community. These examples point only to a systematic rot in the leadership.
Dont use the above examples to condone the behaviour we witnessed in late 09 and early 2010. If this is indeed a peoples movement (we can debate later on the definition of a peoples movement) the first principle that needs to maintained is no harm to the peoples (public) property.
venu says:
December 15, 2010 at 1:53 am
If dividing a state is a solution why do not u divide nizam telangana into two states, north with warangal as capital and south with hyderabad and build another NIMS in warangal, so on dividing telangana into two it wil have two NIMS hospitals where as united telanagana will have only one.
@ Venu & Satya,
Two brothers want to get Separated and are debating on it. A person like you guys adivised them to get separated from their wife for futher betterment. Same is your speculative arguement of further dividing Telangana.
I sometimes do not understand why few live with speculations. People are ready to forgive persons like YSR, CBN, YSJ for their already & existing committed sinful corrupt activities but are more hateful of speculative to be future corrupt KCR (Vuhaa Lokam).
If you are much concerned about Corruption instead of building websites to counter the democratic demand of Telangana try to come up with websites to fight corruption. I am ready to join you guys in that efforts too. For me Corruption and demand of Telangana are two entirely different aspects.
"Power will go to the hands of rascals, rogues and freebooters. All Indian leaders will be of low calibre and men of straw. They will have sweet tongues and silly hearts. They will fight amongst themselves for power and India will be lost in political squabbles".
It may be true that the system has become more corrupt but breathing air of freedom cannot be compensated for anything. Similar is the wish for Telangana.
Please understand that and stop Speculations.
>> For me Corruption and demand of Telangana are two entirely different aspects.
Unfortunately whatever the examples of discrimination that you guys portray are mostly fall under the examples of corruption. So you better clear yourself first which comes under what category.
u people apply your own theories, some times u say seemakosta and nizam telangana are brothers and the other time u say no no no nehru said we are like husband and wife and we can get divorce when every we want.
Is spearding lies and hatred amoung people is democratic demand for telangana. democratic demand is solved in assembly and parliament peacefully , but not with violence on streets.
No one hear have forgiven or forgot YSR, CBN, YSJ , its u who have forgiven KCR for his corruption by saying "speculative to be future corruptive KCR" u have forgiven his past corruption.
I think u are day dreaming by not including the corruptive persons list Kaka, kesava rao, vikram akulla, venkata rao, ponnala , nagam , dhanam, madhu yashki etc.
instead of starting channels and websites to potray kosta and seema people as aliens , start fighting gainst corruption.
Power will go to the hands of rascals, rogues and freebooters. All Indian leaders will be of low calibre and men of straw. They will have sweet tongues and silly hearts. They will fight amongst themselves for power and India will be lost in political squabbles".
These above words were from the mouth of Winston churchill on the demand to grant independence to India. Similar are the thoughts of few Samaikyavaadis.
So can we call Samaikyavaadis with such thoughts as Nalla Doralu?
First get out this grandiose notion that some how this is a freedom struggle then the answer will present itself .
The so called Telangana intellectuals like Madabhushi Sridhar don't seem to understand the basic facts.
1) Center has no jurisdiction over Law and Order or Police in state.Their role is just advisory.They cannot direct and make a state to comply its orders on law and order.If that is the case Babri Masjid would not have happened.
2) The Home Minister said that he requested the State Govt to lift the cases,it doesn't mean the AP Govt has to listen since that request has no constitutional sanctity.
3) You have media coverage and footages from the student riots unlike in the past. The criminal cases are the parties vs State of Andhra Pradesh and its people not private cases. Even if the state lifts the cases courts can strike them. If a private individual files a criminal case it is impossible to lift any case unless the party agrees.
If Telangana falls into the hands of people like KaChaRa,it is entire India that suffers. You cannot say Telangana is your problem.We will be concerned with problems everywhere. What Churchill has said about India is just a statement and it would not have affected him. But in context of Telangana if that were true it would be a problem on entire India. So Samaikyavaadis are right in toeing that line of thought.
thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-andhrapradesh/article951595.ece
The fired started by someone, instead of supress it others supported it forgetting one day they will be caught in the fire, and now its slowly started surrounding them.
@Venu, Do you support dividing Telangana into two states (north & south)?
@Satya, Do you want to split AP into three states (Telangfana, Hyderabad & Andhra)?
If yes, you are no integrationist. You may like to initiate the movement and mobilize the people of your "seperatist region" (south Telangana or Hyderabad) to fight for statehood. Ultimately it is their choice to make.
Rhetorical responses may look great at a first glance but will serve no useful purpose if the basic stand is compromised.
>> Rhetorical responses may look great at a first glance but will serve no useful purpose if the basic stand is compromised.
Thanks Prakash garu.. But would have appreciated if you remind Nellutla also that his fight is for seperate telangana but not seperate andhra here. The rhetorical responses are intended when someone behaves over smart.
if dividing a state is the only solution for development of regions i will support it, which is not , so i do not support it. i replied it for his theory of having NIMS in kosta and seema with division.
now Mr rational thinker can u answer my question do u support division based on lies and do state division brings development , do u support division only for AP or for any other state maharastra, karnataka, TN, etc.
@Satya
I am not sure whether Nellutla's stand includes seperate Andhra or not. He might even be a "seperatist for seperatism sake" for what I know.
The situation is lop sided and loaded against "integrationists". Nellutla will get seperate Telangana (his real wish) even if his "wish" for seperate Andhra succeeds. On the other hand, if your "wish" for seperate Hyderabad comes true, you would have lost your main battle (united AP).
I am not against rhetoric as a tool of argument, just wanted to draw your attention to this.
Careful what you wish for
@Venu
Assuming Nellutla agreed to divide Telangana into two, you would have lost your state too.
I don't claim to be a rational thinker. I am indifferent to whether AP, MH, KA, TN etc. are divided or not. In my view, development is not adequate ground for either division or unity. No comments wrt lies vs. truth as every person seems to call his opponent a liar.
We are not playing cricket to talk about wining and loosing.
I remember you using the word rational thinker , but i did not have time to go back and find out where exactly u used it. If you really think u did not claimed yourself as rational thinker, i will take back it.
If not development (by using winning and loosing theory telangana demand looses as seperatists always talk about lack of development) , what else makes a state divided or unity according you.
venu, you joined late in the game. Prakash have his own method (what he calls a 4 point basis) for division of a state or keeping it united. You can see them here. Though the points that he said lacks the specificity(for me), I tried to get a conclusive opinion of him in a follow-up discussion here
Babu Udyama Telangana…(removed objectionable language)
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/hyderabad/panel-finds-no-data-prove-t-backwardness-292
he Justice Srikrishna committee has found no data to prove the contention of T-protagonists that the Telangana region was ‘backward’ and will not cite it as a reason even if it recommends a separate state.
There is said to be unanimity among the committee members that the region had developed well over the decades and that there was no discrimination in allocation of funds to it when compared to Andhra and Rayalaseema.
The committee was appointed by the Centre to examine the demand for a separate state as well as the demand for a united Andhra and suggest ‘optimal solutions’.
Sources said that the committee, which is all set to submit its report by December 31, was of the view that the demand for separate statehood was more of an emotional and political one than an economic one.
“It is hard to prove from the data that the region is backward," a member said during the deliberations. The others reportedly concurred. In fact, the constant complaints by the T-agitators had prompted successive governments to pump in more funds into the region, the panel felt.
This was reflected in core growth parameters like per capita income, agricultural production, and growth in irrigated area which was 228 per cent in Telangana in the last five decades compared to 70 per cent in Andhra.
Though the committee found that there was gross injustice to the land tillers of the region, the villains in this case were landlords of Telangana and not those of other regions. Sources also said one member had strongly advocated bifurcation with union territory status to Hyderabad but the majority felt that they should stick to the terms of reference and suggest “optimal solutions” and not a definitive conclusion.
@ Reddy,
I would say stop Speculationg and wait for the report to come out. Between you could look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/user/tv9telugu#p/u/8/9fR-mNyTRRQ
Looks like this contradicts the news article of the print Media. Keep your fingers crossed, Reddy the buddy.
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Reddy Anno,
Andharu Barulu Kattandoo Jai Kotti Telangana ……………………………
మహాగర్జనకు లక్షలాదిగా తరలుతున్న జనం
హైదరాబాద్‌ : తెలంగాణ పల్లెల్లో పండుగ వాతావరణం నెలకొంది. ఏ ఊళ్లో చూసినా జైతెలంగాణ నినాదాలతో గులాబీ జెండాలు రెపరెపలాడుతున్నాయి. టీఆర్‌ఎస్‌ నిర్వహిస్తున్న వరంగల్‌ మహాగర్జనకు ఊళ్లకు ఊళ్లే తరలి వెళ్తున్నాయి. వేలాది వాహనాల్లో లక్షలాది జనం వరంగల్‌ తరులుతున్నారు. ఏ రహదారిపై చూసినా మహాగర్జన వాహనాలే కనిపిస్తున్నాయి. పదిజిల్లాల ప్రజలు వరంగల్‌ తరులుతున్నారు. ఉదయం నుంచే వాహనాలు క్యూగట్టాయి. పోరుగు రాష్ట్రాలనుంచి కూడా తెలంగాణ వాదులు వరంగల్‌ తరలి వస్తున్నారు. కర్నాటకలోని గుల్బర్గ, రాయచూరు, కలుమాల, మహారాష్ర్ట నుంచి జనం భారీగా వస్తున్నారు. ముంబయిలోని చత్రపతి శివాజీ టెర్మినల్‌ తెలంగాణ నినాదాలతో మారుమోగింది. మరోవైపు వరంగల్‌ మహాగర్జన సభా ప్రాంగణం జనంతో నిండిపోతోంది. సభావేధికపై కళాకారుల సాంస్కృతిక కార్యక్రమాలు ప్రజలను అలరిస్తున్నాయి.
తెలంగాణ పల్లెలు ఖాళీ
హైదరాబాద్‌ : తెలంగాణ పల్లెలు ఖాళీ అయ్యాయి. పలుగు, పార చేతబట్టి జనం మహాగర్జనకు తరులుతున్నారు. దారులన్నీ ఓరుగల్లువైపే పరుగెడుతున్నాయి. స్కూళ్లు, కాలేజీలు, ప్రభుత్వ కార్యాలయాలు స్వచ్ఛంధంగా మూసేసి విద్యార్థులు, ఉపాధ్యాయులు, ఉద్యోగులు వరంగల్‌ బయలుదేరారు. కోర్టు విధులను బహిష్కరించి న్యాయవాదులు చలో వరంగల్‌ అంటూ మహాగర్జనకు బయలుదేరారు. ప్రాక్టీస్‌ బంద్‌ చేసి సబాప్రాంగణంలో డాక్టర్లు వైద్య శిబిరాలు నిర్వహిస్తున్నారు. ప్రభుత్వ ఉద్యోగులు అప్షనల్‌ హాలిడే తీసుకుని జై తెలంగాణ అంటూ వరంగల్‌ బయల్దేరారు. బతుకమ్మలు, బోనాలతో పదిజిల్లాల మహిళలు తండోపతండాలుగా తరలి వెళ్తున్నారు. ఇక ముస్లీం సోదరులు పీరీలు చేతబట్టి సభాప్రాంగణానికి చేరుకుంటున్నారు. యావత్‌ తెలంగాణ పారిశ్రామిక జేఏసీ వరంగల్‌లో తిష్ట వేసింది. జై బోలో చిత్రం యూనిట్‌ మొత్తం మహాగర్జనకు బయలుదేరింది
వరంగల్‌ మహాగర్జనకు జనప్రభంజనం
వరంగల్‌ : ఓరుగల్లు జనసంద్రమైంది. టీఆర్‌ఎస్‌ మహాగర్జనకు లక్షలాది జనం తరలి వచ్చారు. ఇంకా వస్తూనే ఉన్నారు. వాహనాలతో వరంగల్‌ చూట్టూ ట్రాఫిక్‌ జామ్‌ ఏర్పడింది. వరంగల్‌ నగరమంతా వాహనాలతో నిండిపోయింది. హన్మకొండ నుంచి 10 కి.మీల వరకు ట్రాఫిక్‌ స్థంభించింది. ఖమ్మం – వరంగల్‌ రహదారిలో 10 కి.మీల మేర ట్రాఫిక్‌ స్థంభించింది. మహాగర్జనకు వెళ్లే దారిలో మడికొండ నుంచి స్టేషన్‌ఘన్‌పూర్‌వరకు రాకపోకలు స్థంభించాయి. వరంగల్‌లో ఏర్పాటు చేసిన 8 పార్కింగ్‌ స్థలాల నుంచి సభాప్రాంగణానికి వెళ్లే దారిలో భారీగా ట్రాఫిక్‌ స్థంభించింది. వరంగల్‌ నుంచి హైదరాబాద్‌కు రాకపోకలు పూర్తిగా ఆగిపోయాయి. మహాగర్జన సందర్భంగా హైదరాబాద్‌ నుంచి వరంగల్‌కు ఆర్టీసీ ప్రత్యేక బస్సులు నడుపుతోంది.
correct the word reddy which u mispelled knowingly or unknowingly.
ok show the same spirit while voting also and elect the candiate whom u think will fetch telangana by democratically by passing bill in assembly and parliament, but not in non violent means.
Venu,
Thanks anna for correcting me. It should have been " Reddy". Jara pailam ga unntaa ee sari Tappulu lekuntaa raytanki.
IGa nee inko muchata girinchi cheppamantivaa. Avu Anna nenu kudaa Parliament lo jaldinaa Bill pettaya mantaa. Iga non-violence antavaa adhi assalu ledee.
non violence ledha , i heard some one yesterday burnt during the meeting, what is that called?
Venu annoo,
Masthu cheppinavee. Naadhee porpatu. Non-Voilence Vundhi mastugaa. Lenidhi Voilence anna. Self- immolation voilence kindhiki vasthdi ante chalo nee istam bhai, nenu emi matladtha ceppu.
Igo jara Andhra Rastram avathrinchinnapudu emi voilence vunde jara chaduvu venu anna, neeke telisipothadhi ippudu Udayamam etla nadusthundhi annadhi.
Iga media Kathalu padithee nuvvu gadhee nijam ante emi cheptaree. Kallaku kanabaddahi chustee ardham ayithadhi entha non-voilence thoti nadusthondhoo Udayamam.
Oka 30 lakshala telangana biddalu ada meeting ku vacchinree, dhantala okkadu avesaapaddadu. Iga sonchaninchu nee vignata ke vadilesinaa pooradhee.
both mispelled violence as non volence.
self-immolation may not come under violence but it is not democratic, and it will led to violence. that too when the problem is under sri krishna committiee and after repeated request by every one not to commit sucides what is the need of such acts.
okkadu avasa padadu.. a avasaniki purikolipindhi yevaru. KCR asked the people to do sacrifies in that meething. and he want to use them as the reason for his selfish motives.
i never denied the violence hadn't happened after sri ramulu death.
both mispelled violence as non volence.
self-immolation may not come under violence but it is not democratic, and it will led to violence. that too when the problem is under sri krishna committiee and after repeated request by every one not to commit sucides what is the need of such acts.
okkadu avasa padadu.. a avasaniki purikolipindhi yevaru. KCR asked the people to do sacrifies in that meething. and he want to use them as the reason for his selfish motives.
i never denied the violence hadn t happened after sri ramulu death.
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