రాష్ట్రపతి ప్రణబ్ ముఖర్జీకి పది ప్రశ్నలు

ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ అసెంబ్లీకి ముసాయిదా బిల్లు వచ్చిన సందర్భంగా విశాలాంధ్ర మహాసభ రాష్ట్రపతిని పది ప్రశ్నలు అడుగుతోంది:

1)      రాష్ట్ర విభజన ప్రక్రియ రాజకీయావసరాల కోసం దుర్వినియోగం కాకుండా భారత రాజ్యాంగం రాష్ట్రపతికి ప్రత్యేక హక్కులను కల్పించింది. మీరు ఈ హక్కులను సద్వినియోగిస్తారా?

2)      రాజ్యాంగంలోని ఆర్టికల్ 3 అత్యవసర పరిస్థితుల్లో మాత్రమే వినియోగించబడుతుంది అని డా. అంభేద్కర్ చెప్పారు. ఆదరా బాదరాగా ముందుకు వెళ్తున్న విభజన ప్రక్రియకున్న అత్యవసర పరిస్థితులు ఏంటి?

3)      వేర్పాటువాదుల ఆరోపణలు అసత్యం అని శ్రీకృష్ణ కమిటీ నిరూపించింది. అయినప్పటికీ, ఎలాంటి సహేతుక కారణాలు చూపించకుండా రాష్ట్రాన్ని విభజించటానికి కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వం పూనుకోవటం, తెలుగు ప్రజలకు భారత దేశంపై వ్యతిరేక భావాలు కలిగించే విధంగా లేదా?

4)      ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ పార్లమెంట్ సభ్యులు అవిశ్వాస తీర్మానం పెడితే లోక్ సభ స్పీకర్ కుంటి సాకులతో చర్చ జరగనివ్వలేదు. ఈ అప్రజాస్వామిక పధతులు రాష్ట్ర అసెంబ్లీలకు తప్పుడు సంకేతాలు పంపట్లేదా?

5)      మాతృ రాష్ట్రం సమ్మతి లేకుండా రాష్ట్రాల విభజన చెయ్యకూడదన్న సర్కారియా కమిషన్ సిఫారసుతో మీరు ఏకీభవిస్తారా?

6)      ఈ మధ్యలో జరిగిన అన్ని రాష్ట్రాల విభజనలలో అసెంబ్లీ తీర్మానం పెట్టటం జరిగింది. అత్యంత వివాదాస్పదమయిన ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ రాష్ట్ర విభజన విషయంలో సమాఖ్య స్పూర్తికి వ్యతిరేకంగా ఆ సాంప్రదాయాన్ని విస్మరించటం ఎంత వరకు సబబు?

7)      రెండు రాష్ట్రాలకు ఉమ్మడి రాజధాని రాజ్యాంగపరంగా ఏ విధంగా సాధ్యం?

8)      హైదరాబాద్ నగర శాంతి భద్రతలపై గవర్నర్ కు ఇచ్చిన ప్రత్యేక హక్కులు రాజ్యాంగ విరుద్ధం కాదా?

9)      371 D&E అధికరణాలకు రాజ్యాంగ సవరణ తప్పనిసరి అని అటార్నీజనరల్ హెచ్చరించినప్పటికీ, కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వం అవసరం లేదు అని పట్టుబట్టటాన్ని మీరు సమర్థిస్తున్నారా?

10)  విభజన జరిగితే ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ రాష్ట్రం తెలంగాణా రాష్ట్రానికి విద్యుత్తు అమ్మాలని నిర్బందించడం రాజ్యాంగ వ్యతిరేకం కాదా?

 

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  1. VK says:

    If BJP supports telangana bill in Rajyasabha/Parliament, it will be equal, if not more, to Congress in humiliating the telugus. If BJP really want seema-andhra votes, it should simply vote against telangana bill in rayasabha and parliament.

    BJP rule in KN clealry illustrated that it is no different, or may be worst, than Congress. So SA will be better off by not voting to any National party.

  2. mohan says:

    Our honourable President, who worked in several capacities including Union Finance Minister, did not even know, If T bil  should be construed as Money bill or Not. How come he blindly approve for its introduction in Rajyasabha in Midnight after his return from MH not even seeking proper legal opinion except talking to shinde. I came to know from news that he sought legal opinion from home ministry and not from Ministry of Law. NO WONDER INDIAN PRESIDENTS ARE RUBBER STAMPS. Leave alone congress party, why should he also be in such haste to move the bill and attempt to sign it in mid night after counsellign with people in midnight.

    Looks SA has become abhimanyu fighting all kauravaas(bhisma, karna, dhrona etc.,) against them( the presdient, primeminister, whole union cabinet, Parliament  and whole rest of India) ganging up agaisnt it.

    And I have seen on TV, our famous nyayavadi and nyaya nipunulu Ghanta Chkrapani convinently argues quoting article 3 (only) that the bill can be introduced in either of the houses (ignoring money bill tangle). As I said eariler T vaadies very well know, how to apply filters to thier arguments so make thier arguments win, and carry T people with thier highly filtered and carefully selected fragmented peices of data from history, constitution and current day happenings..

  3. Ashish Kumar says:

    BJP rule in Karnataka is an exception to its efficient rule in MP, Chattisgarh, Gujarat, Rajasthan and with allies in Bihar, Punjab and HP. In the first 3 states, people elected BJP, 3 consecutive times to power. More important is that BJP has an experience of just about 15 years running administrations compared to over 65 years for the congress and BJP has always learned from experience without coming up with a 'dirty tricks' bag to keep some dynasty in power. 

    In Rajasthan, inspite of the fact that congress promised "free everything" (right from medicines to laptops), people OVERWHELMINGLY voted for BJP to give it 80% seats. This is what separates "right headed" people from "free pathakam" people. While right headed people search for ways to EVOLVE, "free pathakam" people search for new ways to experience more and more HUMILIATION and become a national joke.

    I am NOT saying that BJP is a political SAINT, BUT BUT BUT it is far far far ahead of all other dynasty based parties whose sole aim is to enjoy power within the dynasty and create conditions to perpetuate dynastical power based on right combination of castes.

    BJP has constantly supported Telangana and never changed that decision unlike ALL other parties who did u-turns based on seats projections. IF SA people stand for principles, atleast appreciate them for some principles. Even today BJP is the only party that is demanding in Parliament that full justice should be done to SA by including financial outlay in the bill for the new state (while the congress wants this to be out of the bill to be taken up by the financial commission).

    BJP has divided Madha Pradesh but both the divided states voted back BJP to power – already 3 times so far. Why? Because the people in these states think with their head and not with their heart or kidneys. I have been to both these states for extended periods of stay and no where have I found even a single person even with an iota of bitterness due to their state being divided. Most say that BJP is the best to happen to their state in terms of all round progress.

    BJP's core DNA is nationalism, while every other parties thrive on caste based, regional based divisions among the people, widen these divisions and benefit electorally. Let us accept the fact that most SA politicians are nothing but real estate brokers and business men and it is these people who KEEP appearing under either congress or TDP or YSRCP, depending on which way the wind blows. For them the party does not matter and neither do any principles. What matters to them is the next real estate opportunity to make even more money.

    The PAST HISTORY of Telugu people was based on parties of real estate brokers throwing bread crumbs at people in the guise of free pathakams funded by public money and telling people that a they are doing a big favour. Have they brought a single manufacturing unit to AP in the last 10 years ??? All of these went to Tamil Nadu, Pune, Gujarat and Karnataka.

    Now is the time for Telugu people to REBOOT themselves by seeking COMPLETE CHANGE from their PAST and that is why BJP is the best option. But if Telugu people decide to wallow in the mud pit of casteism and free pathakams, then they can give 10 seats to YSRCP, 10 seats to TDP and 5 seats to congress and continue with their past and soon become a national joke. The first fight will start where the capital should be located (3rd humiliation) based on the concentration of certain castes.

    While T people will vote for TRS which will align with BJP in the centre and benefit from all the central support for growth and development.

    Recently I have been to a particular town in East Godavari very famous as a pilgrimage site and say the dirtiest town in my life with no roads to speak of, mud and filth every where, the bus stand was full of pigs than people, drainage on roads. (I have been to many backward places in Bihar but found this town to be worse than them). I asked a rickshaw wallah which party did he vote for and why. He stated that he voted congress because of free power. and I asked him which party will he vote now?. He stated he will vote for a better "free pathakam" party which will give him free electricity for 24 hours unlike the congress which gave free electricity for 4 hours.

    Spread the message of CHANGE and VOTE for CHANGE. Yes, We SHOULD (next version of Yes, we CAN :-) )

    • Kiran says:

      While your intentions may be good you are just carried away by BJP "efficency" hype. Gujarat, MP or Raj dont hold a candle to AP when it comes to adminstration efficency. They dont have the IT industry, the airport or even a port city like Vizag(referring to Guj here). They dont have locally gone large corporates like infratech(GMR, GVK, Lanco etc), IT which compete globally. AP has one of the lowest povertyy rates in the country and one of the highest track record of implementing anti-poverty initiatives in the country. And they dont have even one-tenth of film industry that we have.

      And all those initiatives and industry have happened under active guidance of govt in AP unike gujarat which has historic trade connections with abroad.

      Finally BJP is not a babe in the woods it knows very well dividing a state when assembly condemns it is morally dicey. Even a single comment against Modi is spun as insult to Gujarat atmagaurav. If they gang up at Delhi to divide this state I am not going to stand as beggar in front of them for economic grants.

      • GK says:

        All the GMR, GVK, Lancos will continue to thrive in two states moving forward…while generating more opportunities for similar upcoming firms…it is the inclusive development that India needs so we can produce more and more industrialists, politicians, businessmen,…

        All are citizens of India and Hyd is for all…

        • Kiran says:

          Ofcourse they will survive and they will thrive even more in smaller states. What is doubtful is emergence of new firms in small states formed with small minds.

          You have been trying hard for a while here with your forked tongue approach of "all are indians" and "seemandhra re hostile" as it suits your pathetic brain. Grow up a little.

  4. VK says:

    1. BJP misrule in KN is indication for this north indian party inability to rule south Indian state. Ruling in AP could only be compared with that in KN. Since BJP failed miserably in ruling KN, there is no guarantee that it will do any better in AP.

    2. BJP said one vote two states in 1998 in kakinda meeting, then we know what LKA said about telangana in his letter to one of the MPs in 2002. Mr. Advani also said as regards the cases of Uttaranchal, Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand, they stood on a different footing where the parent State felt that a part thereof may be reconstituted into a separate State. In other wards, NDA created 3 states with the approval of parent state assemblies. AP assembly didn't approve AP re-organisation bill. So why would BJP agree for AP re-organisation withouth AP assembly approval.  Moreover, BJP created states seaprated without the existing capital or financial burden to the parent states. So your justification for BJP supporting telangana make no sense.

    In summary, BJP knows very well that it will get nothing by supporting telangana and get several MPs through TDP allignance if it opposes telangana. If NM is as smart as you mentioned, then he will convince BJP not to support telangana bill, which will only benefit Congress and create unrest not only in residual AP but also in other states such as WB (Ghoorkaland), Assam (Bodoland), MH (Vidarbha) and Gujarat (Sourashtra).

  5. Ashish Kumar says:

    @Kiran/VK, I will talk a bit latter between administrative efficiency of BJP and non-BJP states but that is not important here.

    I simply do not understand the direction of your arguments. The division of AP is few days away unless a miracle happens. Thanks to the machinations of the real estate brokers whom the Telugu people have twice elected to power.

    You do not want the BJP in Seemandhra state. From your posts neither do you like the YSRCP or TDP. So what is in your view should be the political future of SA region? If people like you are unable to give cogent reasons about the best political way forward for the SA people, how on earth do you expect the masses to decide what their future should be ?

    Let us debate to have a constructive political future for SA region and not sit and cry over milk that has already been spoilt. My take is that BJP is the better of the devils to give a new direction to the future of Telugus. What is in your view the best party to take SA forward? Any good ideas backed up by logical reasons and not emotional ones ?

    • Chandra says:

      @Ashish kumar,

      I understand what u r trying to convey. Let me say this.

      1.BJP can get handful of MP seats in Seemandhra, GHMC and southern Telangana districts, but they need to do something concrete. (In my view it is  foolish to reason with  5 north Telangana  districts where people historically demonstrated  natural tendency  towards violent  extremism and eternally fighting with govt in the name of  rights,for decades).

      2. So If BJP can deny the present unconstitutional and undemocratic  efforts in trying to bifurcate AP  insulting the citizens of AP, BJP will have extremely good prospects in the remaining 18 districts of AP. It will have this impact for decades in southern India.

      But, they need to boldly expose the present UPA govt tactics and foil them successfully.

      AP  assembly  sent a resolution with majority affidavits opposing the bifurcation which is an open truth. SO unless supreme court clarifies this, Andhra pradesh is non negotiable. If BJP can understand this, yes you are right. BJP will be in the serious game in AP during elections.

    • Kiran says:

      It was not real estate brokers who are dividing the state it is the parliament where two "national" parties called INC and BJP ganged up against AP. Lets be clear who are responsible for what. I am not interested in politics i am interested in society. If we articulate powerfully what happened and how it is wrong – every political party will change. 

      My problem with your thought is you want Telugu people to serve a party which is keen on dividing them without any basis in hope of some economic bones being thrown in their directions. That is not acceptable to me. Packages never build a society.  BJP is tainted if they support t bill in parliament and for telugu people to forgive the taint for future packages is gicing a signal that they are willing to be humiliated for money. Essentially it is prostitution of a society.

      Ideally I will prefer a new party like Kiran's party which breaks clean from existing political parties. I would prefer YSR and TDP party to change their names and take a "re birth" of sorts if a new state is formed.

      • Ashish Kumar says:

        @Kiran, VK

        Let me play the devil's advocate.

        1. congress, TDP, YSRCP all at various points had Telangana in their manifesto and even aligned with a avowed pro-division party like TRS. INSPITE OF THIS, the Seemandhra people voted for these parties in 2004 and in 2009. Kiran won on congress ticket whose manifesto promised T. CBN officially gave a letter supporting division. Is this not true???

        2. Now after all these hungama, you want to again vote for the same "politicians" as long as they change the name of their parties. Great logic !!! It is this unprincipled superficial Janus-faced behaviour I accuse the SA people of. Just because the name of the party is changed, SA people believe that sinners will become saints.

        3. BJP is the only party that never changed its stance on division. A known enemy is better than a unknown friend.

        If this is the thinking of Telugu intellectuals, then let Seemandhra wallow in the mud pit of congress, TDP and YSRCP politicians who will rebrand themselves as Jai Telugu party, Jai Seemandhra party and Telugu nadu party and continue what they are good in – real estate brokering (more opportunities in SA region), free pathakams and a promise of yet another state.

        What you are suggesting is EXACTLY the game these 3 parties are playing out – allow division amidst drama and then later rebrand themselves as martyrs for Telugu cause. Why are you so angry about what is being played out ? It is exactly as per script.

        • VK says:

          In Summary, all parties including BJP cheated seema-andhra people. Only way BJP could be better than them is by opposing telangana bill. If not, seema-andhra should vote to a new a new party or TDP (lesser evil) provided it won't support BJP at the centre. Because, as you said, a known enemy TDP is better than an unknown friend BJP.  As I mentioned before, North Indian party BJP is no different from Congress in mis-ruling, its rule in SouthIndian state KN proved that.

          • Ashish Kumar says:

            The meaning of the word "cheating" is to "promise someone something knowing fully well that the promise cannot be delivered, dishonest behaviour".

            BJP from Day 1 has been in support of Telangana and it has been ever consistent in its stand. Is this not true? It is the other parties that consistently changed their stance as per the time and as per the region in which the promise was made. And people consistently voted for these parties. Is this not cheating? OR do you mean to say that the definition of cheating has been changed in the SA region?

            TDP aligned with BJP in since 1997 and this was period until 2004 when AP became the most happening state not only in India but globally. AP immensely benefitted from the TDP-BJP alliance with CBN being the convenor of the NDA. Had TDP continued the alliance in 2004, AP would have been a Singapore by now. But TDP broke the alliance. Vinash kale viprit buddhi !!! And now you want TDP not to support BJP in the centre.

            BJP's vote share in Karnataka varies between 25% to 30%. It has mismanaged Karnataka as that was its first rule and BJP has publicly acknowledged that things in Karnataka went wrong. How can BJP be a north indian party when it has already ruled Maha, Gujarat and Orissa, unless all these states had a tetonic plate shift overnight and moved north?

            If this is the kind of thinking of Telugu intellectuals, there is certainly a cause for concern for the SA region after division. OR may I say that it is precisely because of this kind of thinking that has led the Telugu Jati to where it is now?

            • VK says:

              Who promised and what promised. What did Sri Krishna Committee, which constituted with the agreement of all political attended the meeting on 5th Jan. 2010, report said about telangana? Doesn't agreeing to the formation SKC  bypass all other previous discussions about telangana. If not, why did TRS and the other telangana (TG) politicians agree for the SKC.

              Let us assume the so called politicians agreed for telangana, which doesn't mean bifurcation in such a way that it harm seema-andhra (SA). It is like killing a patient through bad operation and claiming that the patient relatives gave consent for the operation.

              Really! BJP never changed its stand on telangana. Should I remind you about LKA letter regarding telangana? 

              I failed to understand your logic of NDA-TDP allignance. Both parties lost 2004 elections, if they had won then what you said regarding the allignance might some relavance.

              BJP is a non-SouthIndian party (are you happy?). It is not unusual to call outside south as north, which is like saying all south indians as madrasis.  I agree it is wrong but you don't have to be so technical to prove you have knowledge in Geogoloy. So BJP has habbit of ruling badly in first term, if it were the case why should SA vote to BJP to get first term of bad ruling?

              Any one (whether it is telugu or otherwise) with good thinking should never vote to opportunistic and communal parties such as BJP. So it is better to stick, as you rightly said, known devil (such as TDP) than unknown angel BJP. If BJP really know about SA, then it wouldn't support the bill that claimed by LKA as worst ever bill in his entire political life.

              • Kiran says:

                2004 people elected congress in state – it promised an SRC in state manifesto not division. 2009 people elected congress in state – telangana was not even there in the state manifesto. So what cheating ? the only cheating is done by Delhi and Parliament where congress and BJP may gang up.

  6. Ramesh says:

    What is the basis for Loksabha speaker not to take up the no-confidence motion ? She has not even tried to check if the motion has support from 10% members of the sabha ?

    On what basis these sessions Legal ? Irrespective of the business carried out.

    • Ashish Kumar says:

      The reality is that as per Article 3, the state can express its view but the state has NO VETO power over its division. THAT power rests with the Parliament. That is why we are INDIAN UNION and NOT a United States of India. Please remember this.

      If the SA politicians were genuinely interested to stop division, they would all have resigned and got the assembly dissolved just before the President referred the bill to the assembly. Then the President would have had to wait till the new assembly reconstitutes and then send the bill to the assembly for its views. This would have been the ONLY way to have stopped the division for the time being. But the SA politicians did not do that. Why?

      • Ramesh says:

        I am not speaking about article 3 here.

        I am only asking about the no-confidence motion. Can the speaker completly ignore the motion without even trying to ascertain if the motion has support from 10% members of the house ?

  7. GK says:

    Is it going to be the last day for us to debate on Yes/No for T?

    • Chandra says:

      You need to understand the  consequences of this.  Basically UPA govt is trying to cheat Telangana people by denying them 371D facility. They are cheating SA by saying joint capital. This bill  wil be good for the SA people staying in Hyd and bad for outside SA people. No employee or police officer is going to be transferred to remaining part of the state. With new situation in Hyderabad , Telangana people  might face good amount of difficulty in private sector jobs in Hyd, for a considerable time.

      AP resolution with affidavits of support  rejecting this bill, is going be a pain in the neck for separatists for a  long time. Even if bill the passes in the parliament it's not gonna survive in the court of law. This will be settled only in the supreme court for good. so you can still hang around this place for a while.  :)

      • GK says:

        There will be a diff situation after separation, true. Mulki or 371D all were because of SA, it is the irony that SA ppl use the violation of it as a counter argument, no state has law…If parliament passes it I will not follow any court cases, they will be useful for law interns. 

        • Chandra says:

          GK, u have been with us for over 3 years here. But I have not seen u having learnt anything. Zero improvement in the quality of your argument. I once gave u homework about a topic, come here and discuss  . u never did it.

          Do u know a candidate for teacher job from adilabad need not score as high as from Karimnagar or RR? 371D is the one which T youth are demanding (unequal developement within T). You used T youth  for agitation, now u want to dump them. Flood those dists with KNR , HYD,RR  districts candidates,  once zone system is gone.

          I never liked 371D. But it was T proponents who never wanted to face it. If really 371D is striked down by court in march, T will  have to face it. Surely people like u are not going to get affected. Just u will see the bill passed, feel happy and dont care whether u got a fake Telangana or reliable Telangana or completeTelangana etc there are N versions of T.

          • Kiran says:

            GK has been playing a little double game here since recently. The game is to repeatedly declare all indians are same no hatred from seemandhra as soon as telangana becomes reality and AP is kicked out. The hope is telugu people should have no memory of insults and humiliation and live like slaves ..happily eating daily koodu..and pretending that nothing ever really happened…while he will celebreate his"liberation"

            • GK says:

              I cannot use jargon, tone, adjectives, anlogies that are demeaning…I will write in simple language and openness of the facts…from the begining there is only 1 major contention for separation and that is Hyd. It is unfair to make it UT but at the same time SA need all kinds of support in building a new capital.. My objective is to ensure that whoever is living in Hyd should fee home and should have equal rights irrespective of they are…

              • Kiran says:

                The demand for telangana on lies is demeaning to everyone. Creating new borders between people is demeaning – it shows they cant resolve issues through talks . But the pussy that you are you will take issue only with my words.  

                Your objective is really to troll here – the people who created the scare in hyd are KCR, harish rao, TRS who started jaago, bhago nonsense. A propoaganda to which you are a party was build up where andhras were presented as cunning, cruel people just be their birth. As KCR said lanka lo puttinollu.  Instead of going there you purposely come here to offer "assurances" under some anonymous name "GK". Bugger off from here and grow up a bit.

  8. Mr. Chakravarthy:

    Your response to the following please:

    1. Lagadapati Rajagopal attacking the speaker & other MP's with pepper spray inside the Loksabha, causing injuries to several parliamentarians

    2. Moduluga Venugopal Reddy brandishing a knife inside the Loksabha

    What if any action should be taken against them?

    • Kiran says:

      Just go and Vent in your blog about it you annoying prick. Why dont you just post views here like any other normal guy instead of insisting and demanding responses from the blog owner for actions he is neither responsible nor created them . whats wrong with you ?

  9. subhash says:

    Mr. Jai,

    Please publish the original and complete version of the incident. Not a Jai or t vadi version

     

  10. GK says:

    Lagadapati will surely win from the new or any party now. If and when CM Kiran will cross him or double cross him is interesting to be seen soon…

    • VK says:

      Lagadapati winning may not be worst than that of Harish Rao, who induced the so called suicides for telangana by faking self immolation, destroyed the statues on tankbund like a talaban and kicked a dalit in AP bhavan.

      There is nothing wrong in using pepper spray for self defence. If Lagadapati used pepper spray for self defence as he claimed, then  there is nothing wrong. However, Harish Rao activities no human being would support or elect him.

      • GK says:

        This is our politicians culture ingraining in us….not saying it is just you VK, most or all of us…

        When asked: Is Jagan involved in corruption?

        The answer: CBN or KCR is the most corrupt.

        • VK says:

          Peppar spray use not same as faking self-immolation, encouraging others to hit JP outside AP assembly. When we become immune to activities such as fake fast, fake self immolation, talban activity of destroying statutes etc, we cann't feel much from pepper spray for self defence. 

  11. Kiran says:

    lagadapati says he used pepper spray when he sensed assault from some goons ( i am assuming Telangana congress MP) – and that justified pepper spray to me and I will believe him until proven otherwise. And there was no knife anywhere it was just a broken mike.  What about attacks on JP in assembly by MLAs ? or even lagadapati by t sepratist goons in Hyd ? what about the dalit officer bashed on live tv by the goon harish ? how in the hell did the govt in delhi allow that case to be dropped ?

     

  12. Kiran says:

    ToI also says that Telangana MP goons assualted L Rajagopal. It is clearly the goons representing t sepratism who led to this fracas. It also appears Venugopal was surrounded and being assualted by a mob of goons. While the details are not clear there is clear possiblity his life is in danger and a pepper spray is very benign in comparision.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Telangana-bill-Pepper-spray-in-Parliament-leaves-Indian-democracy-in-tears/articleshow/30358994.cms

    • GK says:

      Irony of Ironies…..

      http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140213/news-current-affairs/article/mp-rajagopal-who-used-pepper-spray-ls-once-moved-bill-curb

      He also did a hospital drama shortly after T announcement by GOI back in 2009…

      • Kiran says:

        So? I enjoyed the drama :-) …far more genuine then the lame confused KCR fasting drama which was forced by students.

        • GK says:

          Enjoyment, you might call, vicarious pleasure it is….

          KCR's fast was not to make mockery of anyone…

          • VK says:

            KCR's fast (with 2000cal intake per day) made mockery of MG's and Potti Sri Ramulu's fast.

          • Kiran says:

            GK"KCR's fast was not to make mockery of anyone…"

            It was drama neverthelss. Pepper spray is not to make a mockery too ..it might have saved a life in parliament.

            • ram says:

              Atleast for some reason you can't live without talking about KCR … Telangana Tiger … Andhra Vennolo Vonuku Putudathi KCR ante – That is the DaMMu. Potti Sri Ramulu did fasting for Seperate Andhra and Gandhi did for Indian – KCR also falls in the same line only difference is 1947,50 … medical technology is not developed and none fast is obstructed by Govt…and in 2009 KCR fast is obstructed by Govt and Medical Technology improved to break his fast — Also remember Jagan fasting where he was cuaght by TV in the midnight for his hours absence at the venue.

              • VK says:

                @Ram (with Ravan attitude)

                Fast with 2000cal intake per day is not called fast whether it is in 2014 or 1947.

                MG and theives also gone to jail for different reasons, which doesn't mean both are the same. So comparing KCR's fast with that of MG/Ramulu is like praising thieves for going to jail like MG during independence struggle.

  13. VK says:

    Peppar spray or dictatorial attitude in introducing telangana bill, which is more dangerous to democracy

    Use of peppar spray for self defence is legal (and it is not lethal) whereas dictotorial attitude in democracy reminds us Hitler. So if anyone is really worried about democracy, then they should worry about the way telangana bill introduced against the majority wish in the affected state.

  14. Anonymous says:

    I am sacred by BJP posturing.

    I as an Andhra cannot bear this telangana taddinam anymore.

    Quicker the seperation better our lives will be.

  15. Arnab says:

    Arnab Goswamy speaking on behalf of all decent law abiding Indians

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9b02EqUsbGA

    • VK says:

      Peppar spray is not lethal and hence it is legal to carry for self defence. However, faking self immolation, which responsible for the so called suicides for telangana. So HarishRao and people who are using suicides for telangana like the beggars use their disabled children for begging should apologise to whole country.

  16. Chakravarthy says:

    QUOTE—-

    Mr. Chakravarthy:

    Your response to the following please:

    1. Lagadapati Rajagopal attacking the speaker & other MP's with pepper spray inside the Loksabha, causing injuries to several parliamentarians

    2. Moduluga Venugopal Reddy brandishing a knife inside the Loksabha

    What if any action should be taken against them? 

    — END QUOTE

    Dear Jai: Thank you for emailing. Due to my travel I am unable to blog as regularly as I used to before. Regarding your first question. I don't think they are inappropriate at all and are valid questions.

    In any event, I am guessing you have posed that question during the heat of yesterdays frantic news coverage. When my fellow integrationists experssed their horror at what happened in parliament, I urged them to hold their horses and give it a few hours and the truth will emerge. It did as I predicted.

    Separatists continue to amuse me. When they beat up people including peoples' representatives likes JP, Nagam or near physical assault on governor in the assembly, when teachers are chased in OU or when statues are destroyed on tankbund or when I was assaulted there is hardly any outrage. Before I answer whether Lagadapati and Modugula's behavior is justified, the onus is on you folks to answer whether all the violent acts and threats of shooting down helicopters and buses not returning to Hyderabad after Sankranthi etc. over the last decades, what action should be taken?

      

    • Dear Chakravarthy,

      Thanks for the response.

      With the exception of Kavuri (who said he did not support Rajagopal), I am not aware of any of your "fellow integrationists expressed their horror". Even if they did "horror" is not the same as "condemn".

      I trust you are aware that I have condemned violent acts from both Telangana proponents & opponents. Some of my comments are on record at this very blog. I did not demand "reciprocal condemnation" as a pre-condition.

      I speak for myself as an individual and do not represent any "folks". Holding me accountable for what someone else said or did not say is like my blaming you for Lagadapati's attack.

      The honorable speaker is the only authority to decide the appropriate action on these MP's. You & I can make suggestions/requests but she alone has the powers to decide. You will remember Nadendla Manohar exercized similar powers in the Loksatta case.

      You are open to choose to postpone your opinion till all Telangana supporters condemn all violent acts of "fellow" Telanganites. I trust you will agree I am free to interpret this as a refusal to condemn fellow anti-Telangana individuals.

      • VK says:

        Who cares what you think?

        Peppar spray is legal to use for self defence and Lagadapati had already said sorry for the incident, then where is the quesiton of condemning it.

        Did Harish rao said sorry inducing the so called suicides for telangana through fake self immolation. Have you ever mentioned he is the culprit for the suicides?

        How do you we forget the (negative) views on Potti Sri Ramulu's fast, which are also in the record.

        http://www.tupaki.com/news/view/Telanghaghg/52747

        (Thanks to Subash for providing link to this)

      • VK says:

        రక్షణ కోసం పెప్పర్ స్ప్రే వాడుకోవచ్చని సుప్రీం కోర్టే చెప్పింది: సబ్బం హరి

        అపదలో ఉన్నవారు ఎవరయినా తమ రక్షణ కోసం పెప్పర్ స్ప్రే వాడుకోవచ్చని సుప్రీంకోర్టే తీర్పునిచ్చిందని అనకాపల్లి ఎంపీ సబ్బం హరి అన్నారు. అందుకే ఆపదలో ఉన్నప్పుడు మాత్రమే ఎంపీ లగడపాటి స్ప్రేను వాడారని తెలిపారు. అలాంటప్పుడు పార్లమెంటులో దాన్ని ఉపయోగించడం తప్పుకాదన్నారు. లగడపాటి వాడిన స్ప్రే వల్ల ఎవరికీ, ఎలాంటి ఇబ్బంది కలగలేదన్నారు. దానివల్ల కాసేపు కళ్లు మండుతాయి తప్ప ఏమి కాదని వివరించారు.

        • దయ చేసి కేసు వివరాలు ఇస్తారాండీ?

          కాస్సేపు కళ్ళు మండడం కాదు, తాత్కాలిక అంధత్వం వస్తుంది. 100 చదరపు గజాలలో 30-40 మంది ఒకరినొకరు తోసుకుంటున్న సందర్భంలో 10 మందికి 5 నిముషాలపాటు కళ్ళు కనిపించకపోతే ఏమి జరుగుతుందో ఊహించగలరా? అసలు ప్రమాదం కన్నా తొక్కిసలాటలోనే ఎక్కువ హాని జరుగుతుందని మనకు విదితమే.

          • VK says: