యూ.పి.ఏ. జూలై 30 2013న మన రాష్ట్ర విభజనకు అనుకూలంగా నిర్ణయం తీసుకున్న నేపధ్యంలో విశాలాంధ్ర మహాసభ తెలుగు జాతి ఐక్యత కోసం ప్రజల్లో చైతన్యం కలిగించటానికి రాష్ట్ర వ్యాప్త సమైక్యత యాత్రకు ఆగష్టు 6, 2013న శ్రీకారం చుట్టింది. మొదటి దశలో రాయలసీమ ప్రాంతంలో, రెండవ దశలో కోస్తా ప్రాతంలో పర్యటించింది. రాష్ట్ర ప్రభుత్వం అడ్డుకోకపోతే, మూడవ దశలో నైజాం ప్రాతంలో పర్యటించాలన్నది మా కోరిక. సమైక్యత యాత్ర కోస్తా, రాయలసీమలోని పదమూడు జిల్లాలలో మూడు వేల కిలోమీటర్లు దూరం సాగింది. ప్రజలు ఊరు ఊరు వాడ వాడ ముక్త కంఠంతో కోరుకుంటున్నది 23 జిల్లాలతో కూడిన హైదరాబాద్ రాజధానిగా ఉండే సమైక్యాంధ్రప్రదేశ్ రాష్ట్రము. దీనిలో ఎట్లాంటి బేరసారాలకి తావులేదని స్పష్టంగా చెపుతున్నారు ప్రజలు.
తెలుగు జాతి ఐక్యత ఒక పవిత్ర లక్షంగా మన పెద్దలు భావించారు కాబట్టే 1956లో మన రాష్ట్ర ఆవిర్భావం జరిగింది. 1953లో మద్రాస్ ప్రెసిడెన్సీ నుంచి విడిపోయి ఆంధ్ర రాష్ట్రం ఆవిర్భవించినప్పుడు, వెనుకబడ్డ రాయలసీమ ప్రాంత ప్రజలు కర్నూల్ రాజధానిగా ఉండాలని కోరారు. కోస్తా ప్రాంత ప్రజలు పెద్ద మనసుతో కర్నూల్ ని రాజధానిగా అంగీకరించారు. 1956లో ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ రాష్ట్రం ఆవిర్భవించినప్పుడు, హైదరాబాద్ రాజధానిగా ఉండటానికి అనుకూలమయిన నగరం. వెనుకబడ్డ ప్రాంతమయినప్పటికీ రాయలసీమ ప్రజలు కర్నూలు రాజధాని వదులుకొని, సమైక్య తెలుగు రాష్ట్రానికి రాజధానిగా హైదరాబాద్ ఉండటానికి అంగీకరించారు. ఇక ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ రాష్ట్ర ఆవిర్భావానికి మార్గం సుగుమం చేయటానికి బూర్గుల రామకృష్ణ రావు ముఖ్యమంత్రి పదివిని త్యజించారు. అన్ని ప్రాంతాల ప్రజలు నాయకుల నిస్వార్ధ త్యాగాల ఫలితం ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ రాష్ట్ర ఆవిర్భావం.
దురదృష్టవశాత్తు మన రాష్ట్ర ఆవిర్భావం వెనుక ఉన్న నూరు సంవత్సరాల చరిత్రను మరిచిపోయి, మన రాష్ట్రంలోని మూడు ముఖ్య రాజకీయ పార్టీలు తెలుగు జాతికి వెన్నుపోటు పొడిచాయి. ముందు రెండు కళ్ళ సిద్ధాంతం అన్న తెలుగు దేశం పార్టీ, తరువాత ఒంటి కన్ను సిద్ధాంతంగా రూపాంతరం చెందింది. ఈనాడు ఆ పార్టి అంధకారంలో మునిగిపోయింది. వై.ఎస్.ఆర్ కాంగ్రెస్ పార్టీ తెలంగాణా సెంటిమెంట్ పై మాకు గౌరవముంది అని గత కొన్ని సంవత్సరాలుగా చెప్తూ వచ్చింది. ఇన్ని రోజులు గోడ మీద పిల్లిలా కూర్చున్న ఆ పార్టీ, యూ.పి.ఏ ఇక రెండు మూడు రోజుల్లో విభజనకు నిర్ణయం తీసుకుంటుంది అనగా గోడ మీద నుంచి దూకి ఇప్పుడు సమైక్యం అంటుంది. ఇండియన్ నేషనల్ కాంగ్రెస్ ని బ్రిటిషు వారు స్తాపించారు. బ్రిటిష్ వాళ్ళ “విభజించు పాలించు” సిద్ధాంతాన్ని బాగా వంట పట్టించుకున్నట్టు ఉంది కాంగ్రెస్ పార్టీ. మన రాష్ట్రాన్ని ఎన్ని ముక్కలు చేస్తే తమకు ఎక్కువ వోట్లు, సీట్లు వస్తాయనే ఆలోచనే తప్ప రాష్ట్ర, దేశ ప్రయోజనాలపై దూరదృష్టి లేదు.
రాజకీయ పార్టీలు తమని మోసం చేశాయని గమనించిన ప్రజలు పార్టీలకి అతీతంగా రోడ్లేక్కారు, ఉద్యమిస్తున్నారు. ఈ ఉద్యమానికి నాయకులు లేరు. మన నాయకుల లాగ ఉద్యోగాలు, నిధులు, నీళ్ళ గురించి పెద్దగా పట్టించుకోవటం లేదు జనాలు. ప్రజలు ఒకే ఒక లక్షంతో ముందుకు సాగుతున్నారు- ఆ లక్షం సమైక్యాంధ్ర!
అయితే ప్రజలకు తమ లక్షం స్పష్టంగా ఉన్నప్పటికీ, వాళ్ళు మమ్మల్ని ఎక్కడికి వెళ్ళినా అడిగింది ఉద్యమ తక్షణ కర్తవ్యాలు ఏంటి అని, ఈ ఉద్యమాన్ని లక్ష్య సాధన దిశగా ఎట్లా తీసుకెళ్ళగలం అని. ఉద్యమానికి ఒక రోడ్ మ్యాప్ తీసుకు రావాలి అన్నది వాళ్ళ భావన.
సమైక్యాంధ్ర ఉద్యమ తక్షణ కర్తవ్యం సమైక్యానికి కట్టుబడి ఉన్నామని చెబుతున్న కేంద్ర మంత్రులు, ఎం.పి.లు, ఎం.ఎల్.ఏ ల రాజీనామాలు. మన ప్రజా ప్రతినిధులు చెప్పే కుంటి సాకులు నమ్మే స్థితిలో ప్రజలు లేరు. డిసెంబర్ 9 2009 ప్రకటన వచ్చి మూడు సంవత్సరాలు దాటింది. ఈ కాలంలో సమైక్యానికి కట్టుపడి ఉన్న మంత్రులు, ప్రతినిధులు సాధించింది శూన్యం. పులుల్లా గాండ్రించే మన నాయకులు ఇవ్వాల్టికి కూడా సోనియా గాంధీ గుడ్లు ఉరుమితే పిల్లుల్లా అయిపోతున్నారు. వీరు తెలుగు జాతి ఐక్యత కొరకు పోరాడుతారనుకోవటం అవివేకం. కేంద్రంలో యూ.పి.ఏ. ప్రభుత్వం బొటాబొటి మెజారిటీతో నడుస్తుంది. సమైక్యానికి కట్టుపడి ఉన్నామని చెపుతున్న మంత్రులు, ఎం.పి. లు రాజీనామా చేస్తే కేంద్రంలో రాజకీయ సంక్షోభం వస్తుంది. ప్రభుత్వం పడిపోయి ఎన్నికలు వచ్చే అవకాశం కూడా ఉంది. యూ.పి.ఏ. తలపెట్టిన దుష్కార్యాన్ని ఆపటానికి ఇంతకు మించిన మార్గం లేదు. మన రాష్ట్రానికి చెందినా మెజారిటీ ప్రజా ప్రతినిధులు లేని చట్ట సభలలో రాష్ట్ర విభజన నిర్ణయం తీసుకోవటం అసాధ్యం. అలా చేయటానికి కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వం సాహసిస్తే రాష్ట్రం అగ్నిగుండం అవుతుంది.
సమైక్యానికి కట్టుబడి ఉన్నామని చెబుతున్న కేంద్ర మంత్రులకి ఎం.పి. లకి ఒక గమనిక. మీ నియోజకవర్గ ప్రజలు కెసిఆర్ కన్నా కూడా మిమ్మల్ని ఎక్కువగా ద్వేషిస్తున్నారు. కళాకారులు రాసే గేయాలలో విమర్శలు, దూషణలు విభాజనవాదుల కన్నా సమైక్యవాద మంత్రులు, ప్రజా ప్రతినిధుల మీద ఎక్కువగా ఎక్కుపెడుతున్నారు. ఉదాహరణకు ఏలూరులో ఒక రోడ్డుపై ఉన్న ఫ్లెక్సి బ్యానర్ పై ఈ విధంగా రాసారు: “గాండ్రించని పులులెందుకు, గర్జించని సింహాలెందుకు, ఘీంకరించని ఎనుగులేందుకు, బుసకొట్టని నాగులెందుకు, గొంతు విప్పని నాయకులెందుకు?ఎందుకు? ఎందుకు?”
లగడపాటి రాజగోపాల్ వంటి సమైక్యవాద నాయకులు ఉద్యమాన్ని చిన్నబుచ్చే మాటలు ఆపి తక్షణమే రాజీనామా చేయాలి. ఆయన ఉపయోగించబోయే బ్రహ్మాస్త్రం ఏంటో తెలియదు కాని అది పిచ్చుక పైన కూడా పనిచేయదని ప్రజలకి తెలుసు. మీరు డిసెంబర్ 9 ప్రకటన వచ్చిన తరువాత మీ తప్పిదాలు గ్రహించి మీ ధోరణి మార్చుకుంటారని అనుకున్నాము. ఒక పక్క విభజనవాదులు రోడ్లేక్కి ఆందోళనలు చేస్తుంటే , గత మూడు సంవత్సరాలుగా మీరు ఏసి గదుల్లో కూర్చుని రెండు వారాలకి ఒక సారి మీడియా వాళ్ళని మీ దగ్గరకి పిలింపించుకొని టివిలలో రంకెలు వేయటం ద్వారా ఉద్యమాన్ని నడిపిస్తున్నామని మీరనుకున్నారు. ఇక నైనా యూ.పీ.ఏ. తీసుకున్న నిర్ణయానికి నైతిక భాద్యత వహించి మీ రాజీనామా ద్వారా రాష్ట్ర ప్రజలికి క్షమాపణలు చెప్పండి. ఈ విజ్ఞ్యప్తి అందరు కేంద్ర మంత్రులు, రాష్ట్ర మంత్రులు, ఎం. పి. లు, ఎం. ఎల్. ఏ. లకు కూడా వర్తిస్తుంది.
ప్రభుత్వ ఉద్యోగులు, ఆర్.టి.సి. కార్మికులు, ఉపాధ్యాయులు, విద్యార్థులు, కోట్లాది మంది సామాన్య ప్రజలు ఉద్యమ బాట పట్టారు. ఉద్యోగులకి నెల జీతాలు రాని పరిస్థితి. సమ్మె మూలంగా ఆర్.టి.సి. ఉద్యోగులకి జీత భత్యాల నష్టమే కాకుండా సంస్థ మనుగడకే ప్రమాదం ఏర్పడింది. విద్యార్థులు ఉపాధ్యాయులు చదువులని పక్కన పెట్టి సమైక్యాంధ్ర కొరకు రోడ్డెక్కారు. ఉద్యోగుల, కార్మికుల, విద్యార్ధుల త్యాగాలకు తెలుగు జాతి ఎప్పటికి రుణపడి ఉంటుంది.
చివరికి బిచ్చగాళ్ళు కుష్టు రోగులు కూడా జే ఏ సి లు పెట్టుకొని ఉద్యమ బాట పట్టారు. కాని మన మంత్రులు, ఎం.పి. లు, ఎం.ఎల్.ఏ. లు మాత్రం జిడ్డులా పదవులని పట్టికొని వేలాడటం చాల విడ్డూరం. పదవుల కొరకు మీరు తెలుగు జాతి ఐక్యతను తాకట్టు పెడితే చరిత్ర మిమ్మల్ని క్షమించదు. నాయకులారా చరిత్ర హీనులు కాకండి, రాజీనామాలు చేయండి ఉద్యమంలో మమేకం కండి.
ఉద్యమ తక్షణ కర్తవ్యమ్ ప్రజా ప్రతినిధుల రాజీనామా అయితే, ఉద్యమ లక్ష సాధనకి ఒక ఐక్య కార్యాచరణ అత్యవసరం. రాష్ట్రంలో వేలాది జే.ఏ.సి. లు ఉన్నాయి. ఈ సంస్థలు చేసే కార్యక్రమాల మధ్య సమన్వయము తీసుకు రావటం చాల ముఖ్యం. ఈ సంస్తలన్నిటిని ఒకే గొడుకు కిందకి తీసుకు రాలేము, తీసుకు వచ్చే ప్రయత్నం కూడా చేయకూడదు. ఈ ఉద్యమం ప్రత్యేకత నాయకులు లేకపోవటం. దానిని మనం స్వాగతించాలి, అలాగే కొనసాగించాలి. అయితే వచ్చే రెండు మూడు నెలల పాటు ఏ కార్యక్రమాలు చేయాలి, ఏమి చేస్తే కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వం పై ఒత్తిడి తీసుకు రావచ్చు అని అలోచించి ఒక క్యాలెండర్ తయారు చేసుకోవలసిన అవసరం ఎంతో ఉంది. ఈ ఐక్య కార్యాచరణని రాష్ట్రవ్యాప్తంగా అన్ని జే.ఏ.సి. లని సమన్వయపరిచి అందరం ఒకే తాటిపై నడవటానికి కృషి చేయాలి.
నలమోతు చక్రవర్తి
అధ్యక్షులు
విశాలాంధ్ర మహాసభ
Dear Friends: I am reconsidering my position on the resignation of MPs and MLAs. After touring for more than 3000 Kms in the Kosta-Seema region, I have renewed respect for people's views. People do not trust politicians to protect their interests in the Assembly or the Parliament. They feel they were backstabbed by their leaders. Hence, the demand for immediate resignations.
Chakravarthy, good to see you in an activisit role.
what would be your reply if T people also ask to resing T MLAs ? you want this state to be under president rule for ever ? How would you convience telanagna people when you gave CM, Speaker,PCC, DGP, Finance and all important posts to SA people ? Are T people only deserved to get Deputy Ranks ? Why was fair share is not followed even after december 2009 statement ? So, is that intention that SA people should have better oppurtunties than T people ? As a govt. isn't reposible to over see fair share ? Is your intelligence been used against T people ? Now, why dont you Join YSRCP, when it is supporting United AP… Is your goal to work aganist Telangana People ?
Why you did not understand when T people were saying the same in the case of the T politicians for the last 60 years. You have all the attributes of a cunning chameleon…go on and try what you can…best of luck.
Can you please summarize what they want HYD, Jobs, Water?
"T people were saying the same in the case of the T politicians for the last 60 years" – ONE MORE LIE.
The whole T-agitation based on lies and hatred.
To summarize "We want united AP, so that Hyd., Jobs & Water will be for all (including T)"
& "We dont want anything based on hatred and lies to sustain, this is dangerous not only to AP but also for India"
Chakravarthy,
All the various kinds of protests/bandhs that T people did which impacted students, you opposed them strongly…now you are on TV, touring SA, are you advocating the same or feel that it will dilute the noise?
Also, please for God sake do not continue to use the telugu jathi for your objective.. it will move T people more and more away from their affiliation to common telugu culture as they could percieve it as SA jathi. You are so bull headed on this.
"they could percieve it as SA jathi" – Their perception is not important, because KaChaRa and gang will make them believe by brain washing. If one doesnt believe, then he is Telangana Drohi.
If you want to believe only the last 60 years to be your history, jati, culture, language, samskriti, etc… NO BODY CAN HELP YOU.
It is pretty clear that you have been brainwashed to believe your jati, language, culture, samskriti, are all different from coastal and Rayala Seema areas.
Oh please GK. Please don't preach me about "telugu jathi" objective. My goal is far nobler than your agenda of hate.
As far as bandhs are concerned. Yes, I have been strongly advocating bands and protests wherever I toured. But urging that the bandhs and protests be done voluntarily and not forcibly. I was in Tirupati when the bandh call was made. The committee that made the bandh call had most of the business community leaders and educational institutions in it. I have also advocated that school children be not made part of the agitation. However, parents and teachers collectively are bringing school students out in small towns. Both the professors and students want to be on the roads. I urged for colleges and universities to be re-opened and some compromise must be found to accommodate those that want to participate in this movement. For instance, open universities from 8AM-12 noon and then allow students to participate in the movement.
Now will people heed to what I asked for? I don't know. The mood is very intense. Also, I have seen both the agitations. There is no comparison to between KCR/Kondandaram run agitation versus the people's movement there. I wonder where are all the people that said there is no "samaikyandhra movement".
What you perceive as a nobel cause is not practical or realistic in this subject. Look at Hari Krishna talks the same way as you do i.e. uses telugu as commonality and therefore wants to keep two regions together…not to get personal but the fact everyone knows is that Hari Krishna does not even live with his brother(s), talk to his sisters…has a ego with his Brother-in-law…has a step mother, son with another wife and so on and so forth…Today T people see thru the ulterior motives…if the state continues as united.. T people will continue to become more and more customers of SA businesses even in areas where they can be the suppliers.
When brothers get confident in life and/or get to do things a different pace they differ in their priorities/approaches/ambitions etc. etc…
Will you stop asking telangana if Hari Krishna live with his siblings?
Let me be the judge of what is realistic and what is not. People have been telling me that I am unrealistic since the December 9th statement. Thankfully, unlike you, the common man doesn't think it is unrealistic. The state division will be stopped at any cost.
GK, you may disagree with Chakravarthy but comparing him with chillar guys like Hari Krishna is unfair.
If Hari Krishna is a chillar guy what would be the position of KCR?
Did anyone compare them?
You are right we cann't compare hitler like KaChaRa with anyone else.
Chakravarthy dont be comedian – None Can Stop Telangana Formation … CHANGE is INEVITABLE – if you dont understand this …your whole experience is Null & Void.
Ravi, please do not waste blog space by putting foolish one-liners that have no message to learn from. Dont be a Joker.
Thanks atleast you did not compared, Chenna Reddy Movement and Jai Andhra Movement.Still, there is NO SA movement unless you take T people into confidence.
The SA movement is against AP bifurcation.
But chiru is saying for HYD UT…and JC Diwakar Reddy asking for Rayala Telananga and MRPS is conducting agitaion in SA Region aswell for Telananga ? What is your response to them ? SA is for Kamma and Upper Castes and Not for Lower Sections ? You are getting scared that SC / BC will become stronger if state is divided ? Aren't You? Dont bother we will protect your fears… ah ah ..fearing to live ? Crap..Grow Up Man
The politicians you mentioned saying different things but they also want unitedAP.
I think you grow up and stop using the suicides, lower sections etc for your idiotic agitations. Losers like you supporting separation for regional reservations. There are many lower section people in SA who are against AP bifurcation. In fact BCs became MLA/MPs for the first itme in telangana regions because of TDP, until then there were suppressed by Doras, who now asking separation for self rule.
@Chakravarthi
Your call for resignation of Andhra and Royala Seema MLAs and MPs is a good move. These legislators are easily controlled by Centre and will always obey the party line. They have proved again and again that they are too timid and can be easily manipulated. They should come out of the state assembly and the Loksabha. Some people have this strategy that they have to be there to prevent anything happening. That is not going to work. Let the Central government pass the resolution in the Parliament to divide the state of Andhra Pradesh with no representative from Andhra and Royala Seema regions present. They will not dare do it.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/telangana-mha-likely-to-suggest-ut-status-for-hyderabad-say-sources/419192-62-127.html
If the above is true, the separate state movement will fizzle out in a few minutes.
If surprising to see the 2 sides of your faces … one way you talk on unity and humanity and other side you insult and discourage telanagana people … you want all telanagana people to die and you SA people only want to live ? How long you will grab our Lives ?
Just like there is more than one way to skin a cat, there is more than one way to keep the state united.
lol
T-Ravi you are gone mad, I dont know what you are talking about, "insult and discourage" "die" etc where has anyone talked non-sense like you.
All the Anti T statments in this blog has not been adressing a single feeling of Telangana People and Your whole blog is running to kill the feelings of Telangana People ? You all guys ganged up to kill telangana people ? Your statments are intentious aganist Telananga People ? Why were you NOT fighting to give fair share to telangana people ?
A-Ravi,
He is not T-Ravi, but NizamT-Ravi. Original meaning of T is different. The NizamT-Ravis style of writing is only to incite the NizamT people against Seemandhra. Nizam-T, this site is allowing you to comment unlike MissionTelangana and other hatred-filled blogs. This blog is not killing feelings of Nizam T people, it is breaking Nizam T lies one by one and so you are nervous to see this happen. Instead of this blog if we tried to hold a meeting in NizamT region, your goons will not let that happen as they are worried that one meeting will shatter their dreams of stealing somebody elses hard earned money and lives. So be thankful to the blow owners for letting you to vent your uneasiness. Take an aspirin if your heart is palpitating seeing your lies getting shattered.
You feel you are cracking lies but the actual thing is you are constructing a lie aganist reality. If you any one your category feels you can break some thing…it will be unfulfilled dream…better you take aspirin and give it to all your friends… you all guys will need it …. DUMM and GUTTS NEEDED TO COME FOR 2014 Elections ? DO you have those ? WHICH PARTY YOU WILL VOTE ? I WILL VOTE FOR TRS AND I CAN BRING MANY MORE ? TO WHOM YOU WILL VOTE ? FIRST THINK OF YOUR UNCLEAR OBJECTIVES AND FAKE PROMISES AND FALSE TRUTHS… IF you DONT UNDERSTAND NOW ..wait 2014 elections will teach a fitting lesson to SA Dogs ( NOT ALL … few like you)
Dogs like you know nothing but barking
Goon became Dog ? Just stick to onething
Chakravarthy garu, good to see you back.
I apologise if I have been sporadic. I have been on the road. Also, something went wrong with my word-press and I am getting deluged with spam. As a result, I am unable to release non-spam comments that sometimes go into spam. I hate it, but don't know what to do.
If anyone can help me, I'd be grateful.
Chakravarthy garu, Please enable word verification on your blog. It will reduce the spam. Also update to latest spam filter for your blog.
No Sir, you do not have to apologise for anything. It is understandable that you are very busy. I always wondered what is going on in the minds of your family as you sacrificed your good life abroad and working for a cause which is engulfed by brainwashed rogues. May Lord Hanuman give you and your family all the strength to endure in these times.
Take care.
Thanks Satya garu for helping with the blog troubles of Chakravarthy.
It may be out of context here, but I wanted to bring this out. When I was in Vijayawada, some one, whose forefathers also lived in Krishna district, said they belonged to Golconda Vyaaparulu sect. At that time, I did not understand as to how they, who lived all their lives in Krishna district, could be connected with Golconda.
Now, its pretty clear that their forefathers did business with Golconda rulers and most likely their trade was linked to diamonds of Kolluru and Paritala.
Yes you are absolutely right AMRAO garu. As a matter of fact, my closest friend is Niyogi Golconda vypari. They lived mostly in Old Krishna (Guntur, Krishna and West Godavari were one district a century ago). I hope you have read my research on Diamonds of Andhra and how Nizam became so rich and how he built Hyd. It is the money of Andhra people.
Sure there were many business transactions or trade that happened. Persian traders did back then. Today many multi-national do business…
I think the blog threads should now be:
1. Capital of SA
2. Issues of Govt. employees
3. Airports
4. Access to education to people in both regions
5. Revenue
6. Any immediate water issues
Sorry, but not interested in the thread you are suggesting. Accepting your line means accepting division, but disagreement is over details of the division.
There is absolutely no reason to divide the state. We will fight it out. Sit back and watch it.
You dont have any concern of the backwardness of Nalgonda ? If you can't love Nalgonda you home town, what is the proof that you love this country ? How can we trust you because you more inclined towards to SA people, who hate and discriminate Telangana People…
Just because one's district is backward, does not mean that he should want to divide his state..What strange logic is this? There are many Telangana people I know, who want united AP. There are some SA people who want to divide the state. The problem with the T-Fascists is that they do not allow others to have alternative views. Just because one stays in Telanagan why is it mandatory to support the division of the state? what logic is this?
This site is for unitedAP. If you have problem with it, please feel free to go to a site that discusses your wishes.
Tulasi Reddy Attacked by Lawyers JAC at Kurnool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMkjVxYwxf4
Seperate Telangana demand fueld by alleged discrimination or hate?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Soe_RPqSAbM
Oops, sorry I did not realize the Andhra lawyers attacked Tualsi Reddy because he is a hate mongering Telaban
Chakravarthy,
Man, why are you entertaining this so-called Jai here. In the previous article's comments he said Seemandhra contribution is NEGATIVE in Telangana. Even after following and commenting on this site for 4 years, this fellow remained a brainwashed hatred-monger. He publishes articles on mission telangana also. He says NEGATIVE, that is Minus an amount. He does not give any credit what so ever. There is no point in discussing with such Telabans. Funny he is using the word for Tulasi Reddy. He got that name from a blog where it was used for TelanganaVadis as Telabans.
I didn't know that talaban's moved from telangana agitation to UnitedAP agitation.
seeking justice
Chakravarthy:
మన రాష్ట్రానికి చెందినా మెజారిటీ ప్రజా ప్రతినిధులు లేని చట్ట సభలలో రాష్ట్ర విభజన నిర్ణయం తీసుకోవటం అసాధ్యం. అలా చేయటానికి కేంద్ర ప్రభుత్వం సాహసిస్తే రాష్ట్రం అగ్నిగుండం అవుతుంది.
Can you explain what you mean by అగ్నిగుండం, thanks.
సమైక్యానికి కట్టుబడి ఉన్నామని చెబుతున్న కేంద్ర మంత్రులకి ఎం.పి. లకి ఒక గమనిక. మీ నియోజకవర్గ ప్రజలు కెసిఆర్ కన్నా కూడా మిమ్మల్ని ఎక్కువగా ద్వేషిస్తున్నారు.
I understand why your folks hate KCR but surprised this hatred extends to their own leaders.
కళాకారులు రాసే గేయాలలో విమర్శలు, దూషణలు
I understand criticism but why abuse?
I will appreciate a response in Telugu, the language of the post.
http://postnoon.com/2013/09/03/telangana-region-sees-steep-drop/142366
Here you go Jai, bearing fruit from Tagitation, there comes a vacant medical seat in OU. You can have your kins occupy that and remember to tell everyone that they have achieved it by hardwork. Just as some Nandi awards for last few years were won by T people through hardwork.
The SA agitators should not have blocked the certificate validation / counselling…
Telaban rule already started?
Telangana doctors asking govt appointed superintendent to leave.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-nzDxIjt3wwA/UiWc_DdC4rI/AAAAAAAABgQ/Eq-xKrQEqKM/s1600/D26953802.JPG
http://www.sakshi.com/news/andhra-pradesh/telangana-versus-medical-jac-at-osmania-hospital-62480
Your ridiculing is making relations much worse. T people are seeting justice in jobs, water…development…Did you forget what it took or how long it took to get a T person as a attorney general…
Put yourself in the our position and see how the systematic encroachment in every field has shrunk the opportunities for T people…
GK, memu inni rojulu poniley ani nippulanti nijalu prapanchaniki theliyajeyaledhu. Tvadhulu haddhu meeri dhooshinchina, dochukunna, asathyalu palikina, vankaraga pravarthinchina, mammalni padi edchina, boothulu thittina padiunnamu endhukantey kullubothollatho endhuku ani. Ippudu inka oorukoleka apptiki haddhu meerakunda tvadhulani mattukey antunnamu. neeku adhi nacchakapothey uriposuko.
GK, Memu innirojulu chesina thappu enti antey tvadhulu adina natakalu vintu vaarini dhooshinchakunda nidhanamuga cheppadamey. adhi panicheyadhu ani thelusukoleka poyamu. yella velala metthathanumu panikiradhu ani thelusukolekapoyamu. modhatinundi chivatlu petti untey ivalla rashtramu ila sarvanasenamu ayyi undedhi kadhu. andhrulu dhongalu ani antey vintu koorchunnamu. inkaa koorchuni untey maaku maa brathukulaki arthamuledhu. bhayapedithey bhayapadatharu annadhi chala nijamu.
Okadu vedhava ayithey vadini vedhava anadamu thappu eppudu kadhu. vedhavani vedhava ani mandhalinchaledha ilanti anarthaley jaruguthayi.
For ex: namatuku nenu iruvaipu vallalo vedhavalani vedhava antanu. lagadapati thappu matladithey vedhava antanu alagey jayashankargadu vedhakabatti vedhava antanu. meelaga oka vaipu varini matukey aney rakaanni kadhu. meelaga oka jathini dhonga ani mudhrinchey rakanni kadhu. andhralo brathukuthunna vallu mee joluki vacchara eppudaina vallabrathukulu vallu brathukuthunnaru. vallanikkoda kalipi mari boothulu thittaru thidathunnaru tvadhulu.
Stop writing crap GK, we got bored of the same stuff water, jobs, development injustice, discrimination blah blah blah.. You are commenting here from couple of years and not even learned a pinch of truth.
aren't you feel embarrassed to put the same lies again and again even it is proven wrong for n number of times?
Satya,
యధా రాజ తథా ప్రజా!
రాపోలు ఆనంద్ భాస్కర్ రాజ్యసభ సాక్షిగా అసత్యం చెప్పారు.
అలాంటి తెలంగాణ వాదుల అనుచరులు అంతకంటే ఎక్కువ అబద్దాలే ప్రచారం చెస్తారు.
This shows your arrongance NOT to listen the other person — How can you accept T vadis listen to you ? This behaviour has led to these consequences ? After seeing again and again arrogant comments from you, don't you think you are encouraging T Movement ?
>> How can you accept T vadis listen to you ?
simple.. Bring proofs for allegations…instead of repeating lies. Emotional outburst is not really a matter of concern for me.
What proof you want ? Is Poti Reddy Padu is legal Project ? Does Handriniva is Legal Project ? What is the location of Pulichintala Project ? Do you know exactlu the geogrpahic location and how it cheated to T people ? Why Doesn Nagarjuna Sagar Right and Left canal do not have fair share ? Why did KL Rao shifted DAM location to border of Telangana ? what is the status of SLBC ? Are these facts enough ? No one can teach to a Deaf Person.
No one can teach to a deaf person. We know that and hence we don't teach you.
GK,
తెలబాన్ అనే మాట మీకు వెక్కిరింతలా ఉందా? అందులో ఆందోళన కనపడలేదా?
ఒక్క మాటతోనే సంభందాలు చెడిపోతే రేపు హైదరాబాద్లో అన్నదమ్ముల్ల ఉండగలమా? తెలంగాణలో మొన్నటిదాకా మూడు రాజకీయపక్షాలకు చెందిన వారు మరియు వారి అనుచరులు చాల నీచమైన పదాలతో తిట్టు కున్నారు. తాగుబోతులు, చవటలు, దద్దమ్మలు వగైరా. మరి వీరి సంభందాలు చేడిపోయినాయా? ఇందులో రెండు పక్షాలు కలిసిపోయే అవకాసం కూడా ఉంది. రేపు తెలంగాణ రాష్ట్రం వస్తే వీరు కలిసి పనిచేయరా?
డాక్టర్ల జాక్ కు తెలంగాణ వచ్చేసిందన్న నమ్మక ఉంటే, విభజన అయ్యేదాకా ఆగలేరా? అప్పుడు నియామకాలు న్యాయపరంగా జరగవా?
ఇప్పుడు పెద్ద పదవులు లాక్కుంటున్నారు, రేపు సామాన్యులు పరిస్థితి ఏమిటి?
Yes, I agree with you, there is no need to flare up, I think it is the eagerness that is pushin them I guess. It is bad.
Note that one of the main reason for the movement is T people being deprived of their due share of political or administrative posts. Did CM decline the CM post and offer to T congressmen? With all the sabotaging efforts ON, and many people even in this blog still do not believe that T people lost their share to SA, this incident keep reminding the root cause…
GK,
regardless reality or perception I agree that T-vaadis are feeling deprived.
whether legal or not, constitutional or not, they are even going pysical against RSAs in Hyderabad.
accept the fact that T-movement has goons with grudge against RSAs.
you do not have to condemn every uncivilized act of T-goons.
But HENCEFORTH STOP PREACHING TO BLOGGERS HERE.
PS: to all prot-T bloggers As per me T-goons are only small uncivilized section of Telanagan people and not all Telangana people. So do not waste your time shouting at me.
FOR US you are ONE AMOUNG THOSE GOONS
>> Did CM decline the CM post and offer to T congressmen?
absurd. After Rosaiah term, right from Jana Reddy to Botsa every one tried for the opportunity. Many telangana names popped up. You are talking as if Kiran forcefully grabbed it.
Let us recall the situation after death of YSR. DS and KK were in the race. How many T MLAs supported any of them? On contrary the entire lot demanded Jagan to be made CM. Chevella chellemma refused to co-operate with new CM. Chitti chellama even resigned from cabinet.
The self-respecting MLAs forgot the (alleged) deprivation of the people who elected them. Instead they demonstrated loyalty to a single individual whose late father was Telangana drohi according to these very people.
Even defeated leaders like Jeevan Reddy did not miss any opportunity in showing their loyalty.
Sabita has the whole rights on the relation chelli
This shows your political igonarance and caste favorutism to DS & KK — Might be you belong to same community — However, none of them will have support to become CM candidate..After YSR Death, everyone thought of Rosaiah and Only Senior after him is Jana Reddy where CWC met him aswell along with CM and PCC for Telangana issue…..there were many other players for CM …
2nd article of Sailajanath..
http://www.andhrajyothy.com/ContentPage.jsp?category=editorial&story_id=47149
link to 1st one:
http://www.andhrajyothy.com/ContentPage.jsp?category=editorial&story_id=46016
సమైక్య సభ నిర్వహిస్తే భౌతిక దాడులు – తెలంగాణ విధ్యార్ధి ఐకాసా
http://eenadu.net/news/newsitem.aspx?item=politics&no=13
Lagadapati is right in calling these groups as talibans.
Jai and GK need to answer why these people are so insecure about spreading the side of opinion
Satya, your link is throwing up a different story
Subhash, I don't support it. However, denying permission to student's rally is also wrong. All these years, the Govt. never gave permissions to Telangana proponents but they raise no objection to Andhra NGOs.
http://eenadu.net/news/newsitem.aspx?item=state&no=15
How does SA politicians resigning help. People with wisdom should think and understand that it only increases the resolve of T people. If you have intentions of keeping united, need to understand the problems or issues being faced, verify and acknowledge them and seek to working towards reconciliation or rectification…then you will have people inclined to you. By blocking or sabotaging this unity will only be superficial.
Efforts are being made in that direction too. Removing 14f despite various reservations on it is one such move
The T share of development concentrated in HYD is much more than SA this is evident from the SEZs, educational institutes, airports etc…
By denying Hyd to T it only shows the saddistic mentality of the SA politicians….Any contibution by all the people must be shared duely while considering what was developed in SA during the united period.
Note that, there are many things developed in SA during united period.
GK,
t vadis consistently ignore all contributions by SA to hyd during the united period. if they want other side to agree for hyd to be part of t, t vadis needs to be generous and come up with the way of compensating other region. With all the hatred propaganda done so far, you can not expect other side to be generous until you are
We are not ignoring it, suggest to identify the contibution and share accordingly.
But SA people are blatantly ignoring the fact a lot more got developed in SA region when compared to the T region during the united period.
Towards this I gave the examples of airports, SEZs, colleges etc….
Read below on how Chandra smartly still wants to deny such facts and coverup by pointing me to SKC.
Wonder if he knows or has the list of SEZs in T and SA?
By the way the arrogance in his writing is a big part of this animosity…
GK, SEZs are a very latest phenomenon. In any case, it is not the number that matters. What are the revenues and what is the employment it provides.. if you have any details pls share us
It is similar to his Engineering colleges list. Like every statistic, the devil is in the details.
For example, even if there are more engineering colleges in SA areas, how many of them really attract campus recruitments? It is well known that the colleges around Hyderabad attract the companies rather than colleges in SA areas.
Similarly, SEZs.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/it-and-ites-yet-to-take-off-in-blazewada/article4806769.ece
@AMRAO:
Very good question. Not only Vijayawada but Vizag & Kakinada are not attracting enough investment. The answer does not lie in political will as the KITA official believes. Tier-II cities are yet to takeoff in the country.
Chandrababu also covered this. Ignoring his self dabba, the crux of his message is:
Had I not promoted Brand Hyderabad, the investors would have opted for other cities like Bangalore and Chennai. I also had plans drawn up to develop Vijayawada and Tirupati by starting IT regional hubs, but then I lost power in 2004 and the development came to a standstill in coastal Andhra
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/students-raise-hyderabad-issue-with-naidu/article5097862.ece
>> The answer does not lie in political will as the KITA official believes. Tier-II cities are yet to takeoff in the country.
The tier II cities were not given attention they deserve. There are many excellent private engg colleges in andhra but the campus selection for these colleges came in mid 2000s. Where as even some average rated colleges in & around hyderabad used to get campus placements.
Rural/Urban is a different issue. If so many NITs are in tier II towns, still attract campus placements.
reg. Investments, it is always the public sector which is the propeller for industrial growth. In AP all the public sector is mostly concentrated in and around hyderabad. So, it is not just the interior telangana that get neglected, but the andhra and rayalaseema areas too.
GK, ………..Few days back you were confused about Medical colleges and AMRAO garu presented complete details here, though SKC also suggested one more med college for T, should be fair enough for everybody. After that you picked up SEZ and industrialization in T for which I posted a comment which did not get through.
In that comment I gave you a homework and I am giving it right now again. Read through SKC report from page 64-67 and come here and let me know what you have understood about that one.
Separatists need a cram school style coaching on Justice Sri Krishna Committee report including quizzes, homewoks and tests. Only those who score minimum marks should be allowed to talk in Television sets or public forums which is an effective way of restricting their nonsense and improving credibility and professionalism.
You dont read reports can not understand facts, just by mere "perceptions" keep on pushing your nonsensical comments on the citizens of AP.
Your next comment should be on the homework you just received. Without that dont ask another question.
BTW if you want all people of AP to utilize all infrastructure in AP only united AP is the solution. There is no other way. Either united AP or entire AP as
United AP is not possible … Life in united AP will be like hell after 2014… In a Major MNC Meeting Rooms Company Telugu People are divided and fighting from Both Areas … Surprsingly, I noticed Rayalaseema People are NOT connected to Costa People…
The situation was even worst in Punjab in '80s. See how it changed in 2013. No one would have thought about Sardarji becoming PM after seeing agitations in Punjab and yet MMS become PM not once but twice within 2 decades of punjab agitations. So unitedAP is possible and losers like you vanish in thin air after 2014 elections.
Just for fun:
Chandrababu asks how a bachelor like Rahul can be projected for PM
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/chandrababu-naidu-rahul-gandhi-prime-minister-candidate/1/305379.html
Better fun
KaChaRa speech on 610 GO in assembly in 1996
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kja-C2Vwa8o
Some more fun:
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/video/dont-worry-about-political-graft-andhra-cms-shocking-advice-to-ias-probationers/1/305492.html
Have more fun
Tseparatists want LB stadium on 7th Sept. for musical chair games
http://www.ap7am.com/lv-121049-cm-kirans-permission-for-a-p-ngos-rally-turns-controversial.html
Mana brathukulaki O comedy. Choosi tharinchandi….
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/rahul-gandhi-facebook-post-on-marriage-and-prime-ministership/1/257202.html
Can everyone answer this question. I have been hearing everywhere in news "Telangana comprises 68 pc of the catchment area of the Krishna river and 79 pc catchment area of Godavari river" by both Nizam, Seema and Kostha (fools) people alike. Does the 79 pc catchment area include the Nizam Telangana stolen piece Bhadrachalam as it comprises a long stretch of Godavari river.
Deepak:
The numbers quoted are from the tribunals. The boundaries used are before the 1953 reorganization. For example, Bellary district is shown as 3,825 sq. miles i.e. 9,915 sq. km. The current area is 8,450 sq. km. Three taluqs transferred to Andhra contribute the balance 1,465 sq. km.
In other words, the figures quoted by you do not include Bhadrachalam. In fact it also does not include Gadwal, Alampur, Zaheerabad, Rayadurg, Alur & Adoni that are counted in Karanataka.
The correct position is as follows:
Godavari basin in AP is 72,787 sq. km. Out of this, Bhadrachalam is 4,160 sq. km.
Telangana part of Godavari basin is 84.8% including Bhadrachalam and 79.0% if it is excluded.
I hope this answers your question.
Jai, your outright claim is no different from anything else that has been happening with you on the blog, but can you please provide a book reference from before 1953. Thank you
I will provide the details of my estimation at my blog at the appropriate post.
Jai,
We want to see a book reference from before 1953 as Lavan wrote and not some personal blogs or some book written in the last 20 years by people such as biased NizamT Vidyasagar Rao (who wrote books on Polavaram).
Lavan, if you are so keen please provide the reference yourself, thanks.
Deepak,
The catchment numbers may be true, but central water commission as well as several irrigation experts have said that catchement area is NOT the sole criteria for water distribution. So 79% catchment != 79% water allottment.
Hence no point discussing catchment area numbers.
Yes, I knew you would say "catchment numbers may be true" and "Hence no point discussing catchment area numbers." because it raises issue of stollen region.
I want to hear how and why 79pc is true.
In the map below,
Bhadrachalam Revenue Division (Wazedu, Charla, Venkatapuram, Dummugudem, Kunavaram, Bhadrachalam, Vara Ramachandrapuram and Chinturu Mandals) belongs to East Godavari
and some mandals of Aswaraopeta Revenue Division which includes Aswaraopeta etc belong to West Godavari
http://www.khammamcityinfo.com/images/khammam-map.png
http://dimpukrishnan.webs.com/350px-Khammam.jpg
Watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu3pHWo-pus
Godavari river in the map below.
http://cecadabad.org/images/full%20size/godavari-basin-national.jpg
http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/andhrapradesh/hydel-power-plant.gif
@Deepak, @Reddy:
This is a vast subject requires a lot of study. I am working on this subject for an year now. If you are interested, you can follow the series of posts on my blog..
Jai,
I have been following your blog. It would be interesting to see if anywhere in India water distribution was done on the basis of catchement area, even one example would strengthen the claims of Telangana engineers, I haven't found any so far, so not sure what was the basis of their argument.
@Reddy:
I believe the water discourse in India suffers from the serious malaise of single-dimensional thinking. Engineers dominate the debate but there is no focus on the equally important fields like water law, hydrology & agriculture.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krishna_Water_Disputes_Tribunal
Krishna river basin is 257,000 km², and the States of Maharastra, Karnataka (Kn) and Andhra Pradesh (AP) contributes 68,800 km² (26.8%), 1,12,600 sq.k.m. (43.8%) and 75,600 km² (29.4%) respectively.
This was divided between the three states in the following manner. As you can see AP has more allocation though the catchment area is less than that of KN, indicating that the water allocation is not just based on the catchment area.
Maharashtra
560 TMC
Karnataka
700 TMC
Andhra Pradesh
800 TMC
VK, then that means Andhra should get more TMC because it in on the tail end.
So TG agitators claiming of getting less water, though the catchement area is more in TG, is not correct.
VK & Himaja: It is much more complex. You can go through the tribunal reports for a better understanding.
Water allocation is not just based on the catchment area. If it is true, why T separatists accusing SA for getting less water based on the catchment area.
The flawed logic of T vaadis on catchment area based allocation is, Telangana did not have 79% catchment area of the river. Their calculation is only from the point where the river enters AP . But catchment area percentage should be measured on the total length of the river. Not for a particular sub region of a state.
Satya:
Basin includes all areas that are drained by a river system including all tributaries.
Telangana contribution to basin area is 20.3% for Krishna & 19.7% for Godavari.
Jai, My comment is only to expose the flaw in T vaadis claim on 79% catchment area..
VK,
this is a complex subject. Hence the great opportunity for T-vaadis to spread as many lies as possible.
Bachawat report clearly explained Helsinki rules and why it followed protection of existing uses. Interestingly late professor and his great followers quote same Helsinki rules and claim injustice.
The report also says that Telangana region lost water allocation owing to division of Hyderabad state.
Even though total allocation appears under a state, the actual allocation is for individual projects. T-vaadis keep propogating that water allocated to AP can be distributed to any region.
You can find complete report (4 volumes) at archive.org.
Satya: I understand your objective.
Prabhakara Rao: I suggest you read the relevant case law & other tribunal reports including KWDT-II also. Very interesting reading though time consuming.
Reddy, deepak
water sharing seems very complex subject. To my knowledge Helisinki rules for water sharing is the only comprehensive guidelines available. There were couple of judgements based on these guidelines, though they have not yet become official rules for all nations.
I suggest you to read the abstract. You can google for Helisinki Rules.
The catchment area is one of the 6/7 criterion recommended by Helisinki rules. NOT THE MAIN CRITERION.
These rules went through lots of modfications and enhancements. They broadly aim at reducing weight for the existing use principle. But this principle is still on top of the criteria. Maybe since the rural population dependent on established agricultural economy.
@Prabhakara Rao:
Helsinki rules article V-II lists 11 relevant criterion that can be considered.
The convention on non-navigational suggests all relevant factors including 7 listed specifically.
Both these include past utlization as one of the factors to be considered.
JaiGo,
I do not claim I understand Helisinki rules in detail. It is not easy to generalize various criteria put forwarded into simple yes or no. I do not want to contest the terms past vs existing. To my knowledge it is existing utilization. If I am not wrong Bachavat Tribunal also quoted the same in its preface.
I browsed through latest amendements. I feel existing utilization is still an important criterion in case of resolving conflicts.
There are many interesting debates on these topics. I will touch on some of these as my blog post series progresses.
Must-know History about Tamil Nadu.
1) Madras to Chennai name change: Why did Tamil people choose a Telugu ruler's name for Madras if no Andhras contributed to current Tamil Nadu as Nizam T vadis portray while hatefully comparing Andhra-Tamil division to current Nizam T agitation? Is it because Madras has more Telugus but most of them are hidden in Tamil mask in order to prosper in Tamil Nadu. In Tamil Nadu, telugu smarthas also use Iyer as last name and telugu vaishanavas also use Iyengar, Srinivasan etc as last name but most of them call themselves tamil because tamil nadu has a strong fundamentalistic pulling and cultural brainwash. A chunk of telugu vaisyas use chettiars as last names. Naidus are called Naickers, Reddies are called Reddiars. Some are so into Tamil culture that if you say they are telugu they will not agree, they will do anything to defend themselves but most (at least those I came across) will agree that their ancestors were telugu. In Nizam T, if you ask the muslims who have been living there for centuries about what there actual origin is they will say Arab-owaisi, Turk, Afghan-Pathan or Persian-shah, and that is fine, but if you ask what their native language is they will say Urdu.
The name Chennai is a shortened form of Chennaipattanam, the name of the town that grew around Fort St. George, which was built by the English in 1639.[12] There are two versions about the origin of the name Chennapattanam: according to one version, Chennapattanam was named after the Telugu ruler Damarla Chennappa Nayakudu, Nayaka of Kalahasthi and Vandavasi, father of Damarla Venkatadri Nayakudu, from whom the English acquired the town in 1639. The first official use of the name Chennai is said to be in a sale deed, dated 8 August 1639, to Francis Day of the East India Company.[13] According to the second account, Chennapattanam was named after the Chenna Kesava Perumal Temple; the word chenni in Tamil means face, and the temple was regarded as the face of the city.[14]
2) You may have heard about the hero of tamils Veera Pandya Kattabomman but most of us do not know that he was a telugu naidu or naicker. Kattabomma became kattabomman.
Veerapandiya Kattabomma Karuthayya Nayakudu (also known as Kattabomman) was an 18th-century Palayakarrar ('Polygar') chieftain from Panchalankurichi of Tamil Nadu, India. His ancestors migrated to Tamil Nadu from areas in present day Andhra Pradesh during the Vijayanagara period. Also known as Kattabomma Naicker he was among the earliest to oppose British rule in these regions. He waged a war with the British six decades before the Indian War of Independence occurred in the Northern parts of India. He was captured and hanged in 1799 CE. His fort was destroyed and his wealth was looted by the British army. Today his native village Panchalankurichi in present day Thoothukudi district of Tamil Nadu and some polygars families migrated to vedal village in Kanchipuram District, India is a historically important site.
TDF Meeting in American Telugu Association (ATA) 2006 Conference, Los Angeles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtZX0rlLXk
http://www.telangana.org/2006Tour/Profiles_of_Our_Guest-VidyasagarRao.htm
Yes Deepak, 79% Godavari catchment area int Nizam T is not true as the Godavari in Bhadrachalam Revenue Division does not just belong to Nizam T.
Reddy you say, "79% catchment != 79% water allottment." and "central water commission as well as several irrigation experts have said that catchement area is NOT the sole criteria for water distribution."
Who are these several irrigation experts. Is it the great maratha warrior in Nizam T, Sridhar Deshpande — Deputy Executive Engineer – Irrigation Department (Govt. of A.P) who writes fiction about irrigation.
Who is central water commission. Is it headed by TRS formal advisor R. Vidyasagar Rao Chief Engineer, Central Water Commission (ret.) who is also an editor of the "prestigious" news paper namasthe telangana's "prestigious" column neellu-nijalu. The same Vidyasagar Rao is also in the forefront for illegally claiming Bhadrachalam.
Rajiv, please see my response to Deepak. The 79% calculation is without Bhadrachalam.
You are right, water allocation is not just based on the catchment area. KN has biggest catchment area of Krishna and yet it's allocation is less than that of AP.
GK says:September 4, 2013 at 5:04 pmYes, I agree with you, there is no need to flare up, I think it is the eagerness that is pushin them I guess. It is bad."
"By the way the arrogance in his writing is a big part of this animosity…"
GK garu, Mine arrongance!
I think you have not seen what is arrogance. See the following….This is called arrogance.
"As of September 15, 2013, to protect the Sovereignty of respective countries, the US and several other allies will require ALL Persons of Seemandhra Origin (PSOs) to agree and sign the following sample at all the port of entries in US.I,______________________________________________, fully understand that I am visiting <USA>solely purpose of trying to find a decent living or simply to visit and will not claim rights to the cities or regions just because I happen to be part of the development of US. Under any circumstances, I will not support my government from demanding the revenues from various US cities to support Seemandhra projects. I also fully understand USA and its authorized citizens solely own *all* natural resources and I will not claim rights to any of the resources just in case I happen to work on one of the projects. I also WILL NOT support the demand for exclusive rights on any given city or region for setting up second or third capital of Seemandhra in US either.
"Persons of Seemandhra Origin (PSOs) " ………..LOL
What do you say now?
The only way out of the current mess is 1. Staus quo , 2. Convert Hyderabad into a permanent UT and have separate capitals for SA and T.
No other way looks feasible. If parties do not agree, bring in the army and resolve the issue once and for all. These kind of agitations have implications for national security and the danger of copycat movements starting in other parts of India, with regions surrounding major capital cities wanting their own state under the guise of "sentiments" and "lies, more lies and statistics".
If a leader like Indira Gandhi or Sardar Patel ruled India, these issues would have been resolved in 2 minutes. Because of spineless leaders that we have, things are going out of control.
You chronological order shows your intention ..dude understand India means whole country and NOT just Hyderabad…for your happiness in HYD dont ignore rest of the people in this country… If you want to calm down…throw a Huge Package and accepting the Loosing of Votes in T region atleast for the fake promise and come with latest honest promises …atleast after 10 years people will again vote to you after seeing development fruits…. other than …there is no solution better than what CWC announced… dont think you are intelligent than them…..
Oh! I did not know until now that CWC is so intelligent - with the rupee having a free fall, economy growth from 10% to 3%, inflation from 4% to 14% and EMIs shooting through the roof. Does anybody think that India needs this kind of intelligent mind?
Though I am a North Indian, we have settled in AP for the last 2 generations (speak Telugu like a native) and I regularly visit the other 3 south indian states. What I have observed is that amongst the 4 south Indian states, the Telugu people are the ones with the least (no) respect for their language, culture and traditions. While travelling in trains, while other state people talk in their own language, Telugu people talk in English or Hindi eventhough Telugu is considered the sweetest language in India (called the Italian of the East).
NTR did his best to bring back Telugu culture into mainstream, gave a lot of importance to arts, literature and culture. Later to some extent Chandra Babu also contributed to that vision. But later AP has leaders who only know how to amass wealth by acting as real estate brokers. And that is why the entire Telugu people today are in a mess (it is their Karma that they elected these leaders into power). Had they relected Chandra Babu to power in 2004, today AP would be competing with Gujarat. In the future, the way things are going it would be competing with UP and Bihar and Bengal.
Even if Hyderabad is made a permanent UT, with SA and T having their own capitals, the 2 states will be constantly fighting with each other over river water, power and sharing of assets. With the current breed of selfish politicians things will get worse with constant bandhs, agitations and rasta rokos for river waters. Both SA and T will be set back by 100 years. What a mess !!!
Ashish,
good summary.
Only a small correction, not future! Right away AP is already competing with UP and Bihar.
Be thankful for your great leaders like CBN, YSR who sprouted and brought up this telanagana movement by having ties with TRS. SA leaders are responsible for this turnmoil … what was your SA leaders efforts after 2009 December to clam down the situation ? They all encouraged the movement to cover govt. administration gaps… You want Telananga Movement to cover up and when it comes for Telanagna people welfare you cheat them ? Be greatful for youself for supporting them because none will appreciate you.
I do agree that the main reason why the state division happened is because of the hypocrisy of SA leaders. Most of them are double faced.
You are 100% correct. Even now, instead of working together to stop AP bifurcation, the so called leaders from SA blaming each other for current situation in AP.
This I agree.
http://eenadu.net/Homeinner.aspx?item=break116
By hook or crook, they do not want to allow the AP NGOs to conduct a meeting at LB stadium.
In my view, this is the worst thing. It also tells you that their talk about ANY ONE CAN LIVE IN HYDERABAD is trash talk.
There are 19 conditions for the meeting. The only condition should have been that the meeting should be peaceful.
Is it not a fundamental right to conduct a meeting in one-s own capital? As far as I know, you can conduct such a meeting any where in India with the prior permission of the police.
What I do not understand is, WHY ARE THEY SO SCARED?
Do not lie. T people are not allowed to hold rally only on 7.Sep. They have been told that they can hold it on any other day. However one should admit that with lies, lies and more lies, ultimately T division is close to being successful. This shows that one gets short term success with lies but on the long term – Satyameva Jayate!!!
What is "own soil"? This is Indian soil and part of the Union of India. India is not United States of India but Union of India. Remember as much as Govt of India has power to split AP, it also has the power to split Telangana into 2 or 20 states. If Hindi speaking people can live in 10 states, why not Telugu people have 24 states?
Absolute lies Ravi and you know it. It doesnt even take a Telugu to know you are lying
Sera sir, He is simply spamming. Do not waste your time.
AMRAO garu,
I will not be surprised if tomorrow HC also orders against the meeting.
Yes they are SCARED for sure. Even a 10K gathering for pro-unity may attract National attention.
Oops! HC went against my expectation. But T-lawyers die-hard. Now they are asking to ban live telecast of meeting.
http://www.eenadu.net/Homeinner.aspx?item=break62
I could not imagine what will they do if a political outfit attempts such meeting.
Even that is over turned. So, they resorted to physical fights in the High Court itself.
Seemandhra lawyers clash with police at High Court – Tv9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzQtwrIpK2E
RK Open Debate with High Court Lawyters – ABN discussed it further.
http://www.ap7am.com/lv-121315-rk-open-debate-with-high-court-lawyers.html
Please pay attenention to part 2.
Please read the comments on this blog.
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/hyd-its-rayalseema-protest-vs-telangana-protest-this-sat/20130905.htm
SCUTTLE is the word, not peace rally.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/t-groups-go-all-out-to-scuttle-apngos-meet/article5099039.ece
Chairman of Non-Political JAC and former Vice-Chancellor of Acharya Nagarjuna University V. Balamohandas feels that protests should not be in bad taste
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Visakhapatnam/some-protests-turn-bizarre/article5099862.ece
Good that someone wrote this. Can you jai provide one such article where the non-political JAC condemned the Bhago Jhago statement or such statements.
Jai. I am waiting. Your reply to other statements but not to this. This is in English and not in Telugu. I really want too see someone responding line the Nag University guy responded from the T guys.
I do not understand what you want from me
@ Ashish
Good to see you. So far I thought I was the only non-telugu. Let the numbers rise bro.
Like you said this is the best solution: 1. Staus quo , 2. Convert Hyderabad into a permanent UT and have separate capitals for SA and T.
Let me add an other: An expanded Hyderabad territory as suggested in the 4th option of SKC with an SAR status like Delhi or Pondicherry while SA and T have their own capitals. Or maybe they could share the SAR as the state capitals as it will have boundaries to both the regions.
T JAC bundh on 7th is incorrect – Kishan Reddy
http://www.eenadu.net/news/newsitem.aspx?item=panel&no=12
I see some sense returning in AP BJP after Modi ji meeting.
http://www.tupaki.com/news/view/Sam/36178
Berlin wall broken for unity and therefore it is an example for agitations for unity.
What about the other Iron Curtain countries in the same period? What about USSR that actually broke up into many constituents?
Communism fell all over Europe. Berlin wall falling is just one of the effects.
Who said there are no agitations for division. However many TG separatists said that there are no agitations for unity. Berlin wall breaking is an example for unity. Whether East Germany merged with West Germany because of falling of communism or not is immaterial here.
Yes, Germans fought for reunification but this was primarily driven by anti-communism. When Germany was defeated in WW-II, Russians forcibly installed a communist regime in East Germany.
There were many movements for unification in India itself. For example Vishalandhra, Samyukta Maharashtra, Ikya Karnataka etc.
The present case is slightly different because it relates to protection of status quo.
Thank you for giving several examples for movements for unification.
The separation of AP results in even bigger problems. So what is wrong in asking for the status quo. Change to the present set up need agreement and not for status quo. The states have been separated so far on the basis of language and under development. If an under developed region wants to separate and create its own capital, then you may not see much objection to it. However, as we discussed several times in the past, TG separation with AP capital, Hyd, is like asking SA to separate against its wishes. This is toally unacceptable. Even till today, I don't understand what the separation for.
If you need to travel urgenly, you will do so whether you have reservation or not. However if you want someone to make a trip on your behalf, you at least make their journey enjoybale. Similarly if TG wants to separate from AP it can do so but if it wants SA to separate, then at least the separation shouldn't create more problems to SA. TG separation with Hyd will do exactly that and hence SA opposing the separation.
No matter how much you try to reason, there is no change in their thinking.
"Spread lies and dont allow opposite view to be presented". This has been the way. Look at todays events at High Court and the Bandh call to stop people from attending the meet at LB stadium.
I dont think reason & rationale is going to help change their mind. Something like Sardar Patels action against Nizam is what is required to help truth to prevail and unfortunately we dont have Patels around.
Good that someone wrote this. Can you jai provide one such article where the non-political JAC condemned the Bhago Jhago statement or such statements.
Jai. You still did not answer.
And you sir did not give me a source for your Lucknow numbers
Where does it there are no agitations for separation?
Samaikhyandhra agitation truly a People's agitation – Tv9
http://www.ap7am.com/lv-121307-special-report-samaikhyandhra-agitation-truly-a-peoples-agitation.html
The desparation of T-vaadis is astonishing. Why are they scared of a gathering of 15K people?
At least 3 groups are out to prevent the meeting. Prof. Kodandaram chat on CVR news channel was confusing. What he wants to convey by opposing this meet? And to whom?
Do they not know any disturbances at this stage will only expose their intolerance? Giving credence to fears of RSA people and leaders.
T cable operators say they will block RSA news channels in T. What is that they want to hide from T people?
In any population segment, 80% of them will display stereotypical behavior characteristic of the group. Here is the stereotypical behavior I have noticed among this 80% of SA & T people. Please note that this behavior is limited to people of the current generations only.
What I have observed is that SA people typically are hard working and are very enterprising. However of late, the culture is to want to make money somehow. They are very “flexible” with principles and can twist and turn them for monetary advantage. Most of the gala corruption cases in AP would have someone from SA or from SA origin. The case of the famous IT company in AP is an example.
Telangana people on the other hand are very open hearted and would fight out for the principles they believe in. But they are very emotional, a fact that was well exploited by the politicians to develop a culture of blame-game. They are also not enterprising and are prone to a “relaxed” living, where working hard is seen as a punishment rather than a way to uplift ones lives.
Both SA and T would have to learn from each other (the good things only!!!) and so staying together would be the best thing. Take away the hotheads from both sides, but the possibility of the state to remain united with 2 capitals – Hyderabad and the second capital in SA (say Vizag) should be seriously explored. Start with a special package for all backward districts in AP funded with the revenue coming from Hyderabad. Have 2 ministers – 1 from each region responsible for the backward districts budget for the respective region. Transfer 50% of the government departments to the new SA-region capital and have 50% of these posts in SA region reserved for Telangana people. Eventually when more and more Telangana people start to settle in SA region, there would be better understanding and bonhomie.
Separation would be destructive to both regions.
SA people would lose access to jobs and educational facilities in Hyderabad and would require at least 50 years to build another capital that can be compared to Hyderabad with many public sector companies, defence industries, institutions etc. With the manipulative and corrupt politicians that they have, most of their energies would be spent doing real estate brokering than planning for the long term future.
T people may not be able to sustain Hyderabad as India’s 6th largest city as most new investments will fly away to other states and most SA businessmen will start moving money to their new capital. Most Telugu NRIs are from SA and they would invest only in SA. This is primarily a perception problem because T politicos have not shown the kind of administrative acumen, maturity and statesmanship so far except bandhs and agitations and using foul language against SA people.
As Chennai and Bangalore will benefit from Hyderabad’s decline, they will become magnets for even more investments ultimately making them surpass Mumbai in wealth generation. Ultimately both SA and T would become laggards and BIMARU states. Most youth from SA and T would start moving to Chennai and Bangalore for jobs and studies. What a far cry from Swarna Andhra Pradesh Vision 2020 in which AP wanted to compete not with Indian states but with Singapore !!!!
Ashish,
I agree with most part of the comment but this – "They are very “flexible” with principles and can twist and turn them for monetary advantage. Most of the gala corruption cases in AP would have someone from SA or from SA origin. The case of the famous IT company in AP is an example." Corruption has been a pan-India problem, with people like Koda, Raja, Kalmadi (may be Vadra). There is an increase in this since UPA-I and exponentially so from UPA-II. YSR & Jagan took this to new heights and they had support from politicians from both SA & T. I dont think they could have managed what they did without support from T politicians and especially KaChaRa during UPA-I.
Ashish Kumar,
Your neutral observation is right. Mostly forward and more evolved societies are experimental and they are the places where all the action happens. Whether large number of charities to large scale financial crimes such societies will be vibrant. Such things dont happen in dormant lesser evolved societies. They tend to be reactive not proactive. This point T separatists can never understand. [(for exampleyou dont see financial crimes and corruption in manyaseema. But other kinds of crimes are common everywhere).]
Thats why most of the key positions in AP are crowded by people of certain districts even though there is no intentional discrimination. Dormant societies staying together with vibrants can move forward. Instead these people want to get confined. By doing this they are intentionally harming Telangana region progress by trying to cut Telangana districts from other districts in AP.
AS YOU SOW, SO SHALL YOU REAP
Post-split, school education will have little impact: DEO
http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Vijayawada/postsplit-school-education-will-have-little-impact-deo/article5100294.ece
At an advantage
“We stand to gain in the event of a division as the posts occupied by Telangana people will fall vacant for the Seemandhra employees,” says Mr. Reddy.
Providing information on segregation of the executive posts, the DEO says that of the total 12 posts of Additional Director in the State, eight are with Telangana persons and the remaining four with Seemandhra.
In the Joint Director cadre, of the total 14 posts, 10 are with Telangana and four with Seemandhra, the 30 District Education Officer posts are shared in the ratio of 17 and 13 by Telangana and Seemandhra respectively and the 30 Deputy DEO posts are divided as 16 (Telangana) and 14 (Seemandhra).
Love failure or Classroom failure TURNS into Teen hangs self over Telangana
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Teen-hangs-self-over-Telangana/articleshow/22382987.cms
Unfortunately treating murders and suicides for other reasons as suicides for telangana going on for a while. There should be thorough investigation into the so called suicides for TG.
Jai G, I am also waiting for your reply to sera's question.
Is Jai G condemns children being dragged in to separatist agitation in nalgonda? mmnnn…lets see.
http://www.eenadu.net/news/newsitem.aspx?item=panel&no=13
Chandra, your link is throwing up a few MLA's beating dappu in Karimanagar.
Let me see you opposing school managements dragging children into their political agendas. Chakravarthy says he is powerless to stop it. Parakala Prabhakar publishes pictures of children attending his meetings.
It seems you have opinion in every aspect. So don't worry about others and tell us do you agree or disagree with using children in agitations. If you do agree, why are you keep asking Chakaravarthy garu about children participiation in SA agitations. If you don't agree, then why you didn't oppose (in your comments) school children participation in TG agitations.
Jai G, when I ask you to check the link you should check thoroughly. See the third pick carefully. I will be waiting for your reply.
Chandra,
how can you expect any T-vaadis to see the detail?
They can dvelve int any subject that suits the distrortions.
But cannot use scrollbar on thier browsers.
Chandra: you can provide proper details instead of demanding others to check every nook & corner. Ask Satya how I gave tribunal report page numbers. Anyway the link is still no good.
VK: when schools were closed during SJS, Chakravarthy suddenly became a child rights activist. Now that his own side is going further and dragging kids to their political meetings, he feigns helplessness.
Parakala Prabhakar heads a school trust. He addresses meetings where fellow educationists rally children entrusted to their care. Not satisfied with this, he proudly publishes these pictures.
I am a small fry compared to these great men.
An Open Letter To All Citizens Of AP
After deeply saddened by the present conditions in today's state, I'm, who is one among you, writing this letter to people of all regions of Andhra Pradesh. I knew, after this very first opening line, you'll try to read in between my lines and try to guess who I'm and which region I belong to? It is not that I'm afraid to reveal my name. It's my choice to maintain anonymity. Because, I know most of the people are very special in making baseless allegations and predictions. If I reveal my name, they'll jump to predict which region I hail from or which caste I belong to.
I want to set the record straight. Yes, I'm from Andhra Pradesh and I'm born and brought up in AP. Yet, I believe I neither belong to Seemandhra nor Telangana. What you heard is right. I profoundly believe that I'm an INDIAN. And putting cast, creed, religion, region and gender, I'm a HUMAN BEING.
Going into prevailing conditions, people of both regions are sharply divided and fuming over each other and even some using foul, abusive language. It's time to put a full stop to all these petty issues. After all we're all INDIANS. We should not forget this. I kindly request all the citizens to maintain calm, peace and harmony and not get influenced by preaches. It's time to look for facts.
First Telanganites should stop degrading the People's movement of united AP and should try to understand them. People of Seemandhra have never ever belittled Telangana movement despite many physical assaults, extortion of money from industrialists and film makers and repeated bandhs.
At the same time, people of Seemandhra should try to understand the feelings of Telanganites and should resort to measures to heal the T-wounds.
What I learnt is majority of people from Seemandhra really didn't understand what Telangana movement is about and at the same time, Telanganites haven't even tried to understand what is this massive outburst against bifurcation of state.
The mistake equally lies with people of both regions. There is no denying that both movements have logic and history and pros and cons. But it's Samaikyandhra movement which definitely has some edge and logic compared to T-movement if one closely observe the facts. Always T-people claim that their movement is 60-yr-old.
Yes, but times have changed now and their movement is old and their allegations don't hold base and it should be renovated. It's definitely an endless debate to make allegations on opposite sides and claim what you believe is fact.
It's T-leaders who mislead and provoked them for their cheap, political gains leading to deaths of innocent students. But leaders and their sons, kin and kith were happy enjoying the T-movement, publicity and money through extortion. If really T-movement is for bifurcation of state, why can't they take without Hyderabad? If they claim ownership, it lies equally with people of Seemandhra who lost their capital in 1956 to Hyderabad.
Even, the figures by district collectors of T region and GDP growth rate clearly indicates Telangana is much developed compared to Seemandhra. This is also proved by Sri Krishna Committee. Even not all people of Telangana are not in favour of separate state. There is an amount of ambiguity among both regions in and against bifurcation of state.
Whatever, it's not time to have ugly fight or spat, which may give scope to Terrorists to rock Hyderabad and various places of AP considering the divisions among our own people. It's time to stay united (in hearts) and should resolve the issue by talks. Yes, in democratic process, talks is the only way to find amicable solutions.
Political parties, cutting across regions, have miserably failed to solve the issue and in a way, they've complicated it in a larger way. The consequences which we're seeing today is just a symptom and we haven't entered into phase-I, phase-II and phase-III which may result in drastic and grave consequences that I'm afraid to even mention.
Of course, there is nothing to hide. Present consequences hint that the whole anti-T outbursts and T-flareups may lead the state into a civil war which seems inevitable. Yet I believe there are many progressive thinkers in our state on both regions and it's time for them to step into the issue and calm down the people of all regions. After all, we're human beings.
Of course, one should blame the ruling Congress and UPA for dividing state for their diabolical game to make Rahul Gandhi as PM. Politicians are making people of both regions as puppets for their political games. And a few questions are striking common man. Here are those.
What is this all about? Where are we heading? Are we in a civilized society? It's high time everyone should think within themselves. Are we not humans? Who are we? What does our next generation think of ourselves? Is this ruckus really needed? If India is united in 28 states, can't we be united in 29 states? Definitely India may not be united if we create new state amid huge hatred between neighbouring regions. If we've not seen development in unified state, how do you believe you'll be permitted to it in new state without change in political system and corrupted politicians? It's time for you to come out of prejudice and use your brains and stay united as One Nation. SAVE INDIA.
By an INDIAN (BHARATEEYUDU)
Shameless, disgusting and heinous behavior of T separatists and anyone, to throw stones on ApNGOs buses returning from hyderabad, Today literally experienced what impact it creates while travelling from Bangalore to hyderabad.
What is even more frustating is police acting diplomatically with these offenders which caused the issue.
This time the activists are from BJP. I lost the respect to this party in state. Thanks to Kishan Reddy for developing such sort of culture in T cadre, for a short route political gain.
Satya, very sorry to hear that from you.
Everywhere in the civilized world the norm of the operation is an accused is innocent until proven guilty.In only Andhra pradesh affairs, the norm has been accused guilty until proven innocent. And we kept on disproving the falls claims of separatistst for over 4 years. Separatists are pampered enough. THese tribalisitic mentality filled separatists needs to be dealt with real seriosness.Now its high time the ruling leaders and administration start changing the strategies. Instead of being passive and reacative, its time to be proactive.
No more catching them and leaving them after few hours. Nowhere separatist agiations are dealt so softly. I think all the soft options are over.
Chandra, you are correct. The soft attitude of police and the over sensitive dealing of govt is the reason for creating a mob culture in the T agitation. Law should be dealt as it is written. after so many incidents where these guys left scot free, they are now confident of doing anything at their will. and this is an example: http://epaper.andhrajyothy.com/PUBLICATIONS/AJ/AJYOTHI/2013/09/08/Article//008/08_09_2013_008_018.jpg
Congratulations on pronouncing a judgment on the basis of a new story without any investigation, evidence or witnesses
Where is the investigation, evidence or witnesses reg "Telangana is facing injustice".
Jai, what is the use of judicial process when govt releases all the offenders with a GO? In any case, I appreciate this late phenomenon of T activists respecting judiciary, law & order,
By the way Jai, I saw you attributing Prakasam loosing from harbour constituency because of madras manade plank. I saw you repeating this lie in many blogs, here too with a different name. why such a grudge & hatred on a leader who is no way connected to your cause?
@satya:
You are making accusations without any shred of evidence. This is unrelated to strike settlements that happened even in Jai Andhra. FYI criminal cases against Undavalli Arun Kumar after SPF was formed.
What is your source for your accusation that I am lying re Prakasam. Neither of us were around at that time. You may rely on news paper stories while I have anecdotal sources from active participants.
Do you know Prakasam himself denied he bared his chest to guns during the Simon go back agitation? Yet people repeat it by rote thanks to textbook propaganda.
I have no problems with Rajaji, Prakasam, Potti Sriramulu, Kala Venkatarao etc. in their individual capacity. The way they are depicted is an entirely different matter.
@JaiGo, you are good at digging the archives of Press academy. If you are aware that Prakasam canvassed even 2 days before the election, then you should have come across some source that proves he contested on Madras Manade plank, Since he is a tall leader and Madras is one such important issue, I don’t think it go unnoticed by Media.
you did not show the source of any news paper, but choose to malign him on the basis of some zombie sources which u hold reliable.
I do not understand what you tried to derive on bringing simon go back issue. Yes. I know , Prakasam garu himself described in his biography. Certain things which gets popularity like Gandhiji’s hey Ram or Chandrababu’s vyavasayam Dandaga comments. There are many quotes which are wrongly attributed to some famous personalities too. Neither it is the fault of Gandhi or Prakasam. Nor there is any organized conspiracy. It is because of the love of the people and the character of those individuals which made such attributions gets popularity and made people believe so.
PS: The T vaadis anecdotal sources best example is Nehru’s comments in Nizamabad meeting..
JaiGo,
It was just an item reported in a newspaper. It only reported what police said and even gave explicit names of officials from both railway and local.
A case was registered, again as reported by police.
What is the judgement here? Satya only gave his opinion on soft dealing. Did he pronounce hanging some unknown people for the act of removing fishplates?
@ satya
wat can we expect from these people just observe harish rao's statement requesting t-activists to distribute food packets and water to apngos but it was actually a vielled threat to stone these buses.
Chandra,
It is true that Telangana politicians have created a perception that they are obscurantists, agitationists, good at creating bandhs but have no positive agenda of their own. I am yet to see a sauve and soft spoken T-politician talking the agenda of development and unity among all people who want to stay in Telangana region. The Telangana people will have to live with this perception atleast for the next 15 years until they show on the ground what development they can do and what investments they can attract.
This is precisely the reason why Hyderabad should not be a part of T. Because right now Hyderabad has a national stature, competes with Chennai and Bangalore. A lot of T people themselves depend for their livelihood on the growth of Hyderabad and hence Hyderabad should be insulated from this Telangana experiment. Otherwise if Hyderabad goes down the tube, everyone will suffer including T people. They would have no fallback option.
SA region atleast have other cash generating options – Vizag seaport, Kakinada seaport, Tirupati and the fertile Konaseema region. Though SA might suffer initially, with their enterprising skills they will manage to standup again. But if Hyderabad goes down, Telangana will become another Bihar or even worse. And being in the geographical centre of India, would have implications for national security.
It is well known that the state of AP is being divided for political advantage to the Congress. The Congress game plan is to hope to sweep T-region and "allow" YSRCP to sweep SA region. Chandra Babu's neutral stance is big advantage to YSRCP. Congress thinks that for ideological reasons YSRCP will not support NDA in Lok Sabha and eventually would end up supporting Congress.
This way Congress would ensure that in the next Lok Sabha all the 42 seats from AP are favorable to UPA and not to NDA. It does not mind sacrificing the SA state assembly seats to YSRCP in return for having full support of YSRCP in Lok Sabha.
With the current neutral stance of Chandra Babu, TDP will be wiped out in both regions.
But If Chandra Babu (even now) supports Samaikhya Andhra, then the TDP will be wiped out in T region but will sweep SA region. Even now he can give a letter to the centre asking it to stop the division (whether the centre listens to him is another matter). If TDP manages to align with NDA and gets even 20 seats in SA region, then it can convince NDA to stop the division. It can then negotiate a big central package for T region and announce mega job generating projects in T region (with 80% jobs reserved for T people) and eventually manage to keep the state united. I am only wondering why Chandra Babu is not taking a pro-unity stand. If he takes a pro-unity stand, he will become a Hero in Telugu history.
It can then negotiate a big central package for T region and announce mega job generating projects in T region (with 80% jobs reserved for T people) and eventually manage to keep the state united.
This sounds good for now to stop the division, but in the long run it will fail miserably. All the special packages for T since 1956 has developed T more than many districts in Uttarandhra & Rayalaseema. State should be united but not by skewing development towards T again. Development has to spread covering all the under developed districts in all regions.
I am perplexed by what I am seeing today in the Indian society. I am sure we were not so polluted in our thinking during our school or college days. As a student of a school in Hyderabad and living in the school hostel during the early 1980s, my good friends were from different places of AP. Srikakulam, Vizag, Karimnagar, Nellore, Kurnool, Chittoor, etc…
Think of it. The same Telugu was spoken in so many different ways. So, for me, having come from a village in Nellore district, the Telangana language spoken by the guy from Karimnagar was as strange as the language spoken by the guy from Srikakulam. The guy from Telangana never thought only he was different, because everyone-s language was different in many of the words.
I give you an example. To ask some one to be silent, the Karimnagar guy would say SAPPUDU JEYYAKU. I would say GAMMUNUNDU. The guy from Vizag would probably say SABDAM CHEYYAKU.
Of course, each one waited to make fun of the other guy.
But I see the school children getting dragged into this mess and getting polluted. If the leaders on both sides think that once the state is divided, the memories of these kids will simply get erased and they will call each other brothers again, they are wrong.
When some one mentions any thing related to Pakistan, what is our immediate reaction? It is some thing of a suspicion. Why? Because we have been brought up with stories or memories of fear, distrust and to a degree, hatred.
This division of state and the path chosen for achieving this division are bound to leave many scars. Wounds heal but not scars.
Unfortunately, some leaders are hell bent on converting wounds into scars.
Excellent Debate on why AP should not be divided?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo4inUd1wE0
excellent answers for those who are believing the myth, hyderabad developed naturally..
Truly a well articulated talk show.
Somayajulu garu's wealth of knowlegde in several areas is commendable.
HIs clarity and to the point explanation is note worthy.
His composure is his asset, a refreshing change from talk shows which are nothing more than the guest shouting on top of his voice to a point that muting TV becomes the only option.
Ditto. I enjoyed listening to the show.
ఘజల్ శ్రీనివాస్ గారి ఆరున్నర రాగం పాటలకు, సత్యవాణి గారి పురాణ కాలక్షేపాలకు అన్నిటికీ అభినవ అభిమన్యు శ్రీనివాస్ గౌడ్ మూతోడ్ జవాబు. తనికెళ్ళ భరణి మాటలలో చెప్పాలంటే వాడు మగాడురా బుజ్జీ.
శ్రీనివాస్ గౌడి గేద అరుపులకు అశోక్ బాబు చెప్పిన సమాధానం, సమరసింహారెడ్డి డైలాగులో చెప్పాలంటే, 'కుక్క మొరిగిందనుకొ..'
I dont know. I mean this is all silly for people like us but, because I am following these two fellas Devi and Goud for some time in news papers, seems KCR has put a contest between them. Who ever speaks with uttermost idotic and senseless way will finally get a ticket for the legislature. Because they literally compete with each other in demostrating their stupidity.
In any case since they fall under state cadre when division happens hope one will be posted in Kaikaluru and another will be in Pulivendula so that Jai G can daily adore and celebrate their manliness.
జైగో,
తనికెళ్ళ భరణి డైలాగ్ అశోక్ బాబుకు ఇచ్చెసారు.
ఆలస్యంగా వచ్చి శ్రీనివాస్ గౌడ్ కు ఇవ్వలేదని ఇది ఇంకో వివక్ష అని రచ్చ చెయ్యొద్దు
Is telangana being carved out A.P? No… a new andhra pradesh is being carved out of present A.P.
As such the new telangana is same with hyd as capital so how can one say telangana is carved out of A.P. When you get everything from present state and throwing away 13 dists of Andhra and Rayalaseema then it the new state of andhra pradesh being formed without the interest of the people living in that region. This is the true death of democracy.
Soniamma rajyam….. when this lady was told not fit for becoming the PM of the country who gave her power to break A.P on her birthday? How come unfit person rule when she was told she was unfit for PM post? When this congress leaders learn lessons?