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ఆర్య,
ఆంధ్ర ప్రదేశ్ రాష్ట్ర విభజన ప్రతిపాదన అమలయితే అన్ని ప్రాంతాల తెలుగు ప్రజలు నష్టపోతారు. మన రాష్ట్ర విభజన దేశవ్యాప్తంగా ఎన్ని విపరిమాణాలకు, విభజనలకు, విద్వేషాలకు, విధ్వంసాలకు, దారి తీస్తుందో మీకు ప్రత్యేకంగా వివరించనవసరం లేదు.
కేంద్రంలో మంత్రి పదవి చేపట్టక ముందు, తమరే సహీతుకంగా చాటి చెప్పిన సమైక్య వాదనలు ప్రజలు మరిచిపోలేదు. సమైక్యవాద ప్రవక్తగా, ఐక్యతా ఆశాజ్యోతిగా, మిమ్మల్ని నిన్న మొన్నటి వరకు, నెత్తిన పెట్టుకున్న ప్రజలే నేడు ఎందుకు కత్తి దూస్తున్నారో, ఎందుకు దూషిస్తున్నారో మీరు గుర్తించాలి. మీ వర్తమాన ప్రవర్తన, పదవీ వ్యామోహం, గతంలో మిమ్మల్ని అభిమానించిన వారందరిలో మీ పట్ల విముఖతను ఆగ్రహాన్ని పెంచాయి.
దళపతిగా వ్యవహరించిన మిమ్మల్ని బుట్టలో వేసుకుంటే సమైక్య ఉద్యమం చతికిలబడిపోతుందని అంచనా వేసారు ఢిల్లీ పెద్దలు. ఆ కుట్రలు నేడు వమ్ము అయ్యాయి. ఈ రోజు నాయకులు లేకుండానే కోట్లాది సామాన్య ప్రజలు సమైక్య సమరంలో అలుపెరుగని వీరుల్లా పోరాడుతున్నారు.
కాబట్టి కావూరి వారు, ఇప్పటికయినా తమరు అంతరాత్మ ప్రబోధానికనుగుణంగా తక్షణం కేంద్రంలోని మంత్రి పదవికి రాజీనామా చేసి రాష్ట్ర సమైక్యతకు పాటు పడవలసిందిగా అభ్యర్ధిస్తున్నాం. మీ రాజీనామా ఇతర సహచర తెలుగు కేంద్ర మంత్రులకు, పార్లమెంట్ సభ్యులకు మార్గదర్శకం అవుతుంది. రాజీనామా చేసి రాష్ట్ర సమగ్రతను తద్వారా దేశ సమైక్యతను కాపాడండి.
సమైక్య ఉద్యమానికి మీ పెదవి సానుభూతి చాలదు. మీ పదవీ త్యాగం కావాలి. చేయని పక్షంలో ప్రజలు మీలాంటి వారందరికీ రాజకీయంగా పుట్టగతులు లేకుండా చేస్తారు.
నలమోతు చక్రవర్తి
అధ్యక్షులు
విశాలాంధ్ర మహాసభ
Chakravarthy: two questions.
1. Do you expect these resignations will help your cause?
2. If yes, will an aggressive stance secure these resignations?
I ask because you accuse these folks of spinelessness, power hunger & worse. The extracts from your recent posts below are quite strong.
Even assuming the accusations/claims are true, the tone of the address is likely to put them on the defensive. No one likes to be orally abused. It will not be easy to join those who are scolding so strongly.
సోనియా గాంధీ గుడ్లు ఉరుమితే పిల్లుల్లా అయిపోతున్నారు
ప్రజలు కెసిఆర్ కన్నా కూడా మిమ్మల్ని ఎక్కువగా ద్వేషిస్తున్నారు
జిడ్డులా పదవులని పట్టికొని వేలాడటం
నేడు ఎందుకు కత్తి దూస్తున్నారో, ఎందుకు దూషిస్తున్నారో మీరు గుర్తించాలి
పదవీ వ్యామోహం
1) Yes
2) Yes
Our leaders are thick skinned and they need strong language to get the message across. They are not grasping the intensity of people's desires.
Chakravarthy, thanks a lot.
I guess you are not placing too much importance to the politicos. You would like them to be in but not dominate the show. Is this correct please?
Government actions show it backs APNGOs' strike: High Court
http://newindianexpress.com/states/andhra_pradesh/Government-actions-show-it-backs-APNGOs-strike-High-Court/2013/09/18/article1789648.ece
Instead of blaming APNGOs for their strike against injustice being done, Chief Justice should ask KaChaRa and gang and T-vaadis, why was the agitation started and fueled by LIES. They have hundreds of hours of media footage to show the systematic propagation of lies and spread of hatred. ALL THAT IS HAPPENING IN AP TODAY HAS THE ROOT CAUSE IN THESE LIES SPREAD BY SEPARATISTS.
I just want to know, If the NGOs reacted as a general public(not as a employe union) and participating in an agitation, what can the govt do except stalling their salaries?
ష్ గుప్ చుప్ సినిమాలో మా బందరు మీద చక్కటి హాస్యం ఉమ్ది.
అందులో కోట అంటాడు బందరు పిల్లలు బందరులో మాత్రమె పుడతారు. ఇంకెక్కడా పుట్టరు!
అలాగే ప్రత్యేక తెలంగాణ ఉద్యమంలో మాత్రమె ఏమైనా చెయ్యొచ్చు ఆ ఉద్యమంలో ఏది చేసినా ధర్మమే.
అవి మిగతా వారికి ఉద్యమాలకు వర్తించదు
@satya:
The service rules remain the same whether one strikes work as an individual or as a union member. The advantage in union action is that it can leverage on the organizational power.
Govt. service rules recognize the right to strike for service related reasons. This is why T-employees included conditions like pay commission in their strike notice.
Looks like Andhra NGOs did not get the necessary advice. Surprising when you notice a former AG is the legal brain behind the strike.
Having said this, it is highly unlikely that any Govt. will take the drastic & politically suicidal step of terminating any employee. They will typically hide behind courts.
If the court declares the strike illegal, the unions can resume duty and serve a fresh notice after including service related demands. This is to prevent contempt of court proceedings.
No real worry about salary loss. Most strike withdrawal agreements have some kind of clauses to eliminate the blow. For instance, strike period can be adjusted against accrued leave.
Ahaa! Win-win situation for TNGOs. Strike notice for service related issues. Tell people we are forgoing salares for Telangana cause. Once Telangana created get promotions and increments.
తెలంగాణ ప్రజలు అమాయకులు అన్న అమాయకుడు ఎవరబ్బా?
పాపం స.క.స. తో నష్ట పోయింది ఎవరంటే, హైదరాబాద్లో పని చేతున్న సీమంద్ర ఉద్యొగులు.
బలవంతాన స.క.స లో పాల్గొని జీతంకు బదులుగా సెలవలు నష్టపోయారు
అది చాలక స.క.స కు మద్దతు ఇచ్చిన పుణ్యానికి హైదరాబాదు వదిలిపెట్టి పొవాలి.
To JaiGo and other pro-T bloggers,
There is no point repeatedly asking Mr. Chakravarty and others about the methods and means of samaikya udyamam. Ashokbabu has already clarified it in simple terms.
ఇది తమిళ్ సినిమా డబ్బింగు
(Of course, he should had said Telangana dubbing)
So do not waste your time in raising meaningless questions again and again on samaikya udyamam. You will get same answers given by separatists.
@prabhakara rao:
With due respect, this is not Ashok Babu's blog.
My question is not to Chakravarthy, not the other agitators. He can choose not to respond but it is not fair to assume his strategy is the same as that of Babu/others.
OK JaiGo, I change my comment.
Do not repeat the same silly comments again and again.
Similar things happened in separatists movement which were justified in various ways.
Same applies to Samaikya movement.
Chakravarthy has replies, see above. Let him decide which comments are silly, this is his blog.
JaiGo,
Unlike many blogs on MISSION, Mr. Chakravarty is generous and not moderating his blog. It leaves us a little more freedom to judge comments by fellow bloggers.
SamaikyaAndhra agitation
ఒక బస్సును తగల బెట్టుడు లేదు .. అద్దాలు పగల కొట్టుడు లేదు
మాల్ ల మీద దాడులు లేవు .. వాటికి నెట్ లు లేవు ..
విద్వంసాలు లేవు ..
ప్రజల మీద దాడులు లేవు ..
రైళ్ళ మీద దాడులు , స్టేషన్ ల మీద దాడులు లేవు .
ముసుగు వీరులు లేరు , ముసలి విద్యార్థులు లేరు
రాళ్ళు విసరడం లేదు . ప్రతిగా లాటీ ఛార్జ్ , రబ్బర్ బులెట్ లు లేవు ..
రాజకీయ పార్టీలు లేవు … రంగుల జెండాలు లేవు
బీర్లు లేవు , బిర్యానీ పాకెట్లు లేవు
TV channels are doing the job…10 times an hour with tremondous background music….
What TV channels doing now is no different from what they did for telangana agitation.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Leaders-make-hay-while-Seemandhra-burns/articleshow/22730642.cms
తెలంగాణ ఉద్యమం లో ఆత్మహత్యలు చేసుకున్న వాళ్ళు సన్నాసులు – కేసీఆర్
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcuxduRBuTk#t=563
Either this side or that side, suicide is a cowardly act. It is as good as killing some one. Atma hatya Brahma hatya paatakame.
Since his goals are met, KCR will tell the truth now.
at what point does he say that? The speech is very lengthy, please let me know the time he says so.
నరంలేని నాలుకలు
today KTR says there is no reason for emplyment concern of RSA people. According to him after repealing 14f and implemnting GO 610 they will not get jobs in Hyderabad anyway.
Sounds great. But I miss the logic.
If one of నీళ్ళు, నిధులు, నియామకాలు can be addressed in united state, why cannot be others?
Here is what minister Bala Raju commented on Parakala…
political leaders, in the name of non-political JAC, were misguiding people for their vested interests.
Parkala wants to go to national media and ask them for TV coverage…as if he is not getting enough TV time in AP channels for free with his sarcastic commentary…Next wants New York Times for the same…good luck.
I wonder how Mr. Chakravarthy and Mr. Parakala got together on this joint venture?
Instead of wonder….I am curious to know how they both meet…
We met on the internet. Just like you and I have.
Have u ever met Jai Go. I see his family name in Viswabrahmin. What is his background in reality.
Prakash,
Jai is one of the Nicest guy in this blog. Unlike many T vadis's, he does not hurl abuses or repeat those same accusations like looting and cheating (like on the TDF websites). He has put some nice arguments, yeah he gets sarcastic sometimes but thats all
The complete agitation is built on lies. Who ever supports the agitation is not nice, whatever it is Jai or anyone. You do not know their games. Vallu pandipoyaru ee gamelo.
Kavithaji you are correct. It is good to remember the name Shakuni from epics.
Reddy, You are new to this blog. Reserve your judgement for some more days on Jai
Satya,
No, I am an old timer, visiting this blog since its inception, but don't post often.
Chakravarthy,
Both your letters to Chiranjeevi and Kavuri lacks substance. Not even single reason was elicited for the cause you are agitating for. What you expect Kavuri to just do what you want? Unless you provide substantive reasons that he can use to put forth…no purpose in such letters, I believe
It is a pity you are trying to find substance in these simple letters asking them to resign, and the ministers themselves knew all the facts of the situation.
If only T-brothers had the same interest in finding "SUBSTANCE" in the lies propagated (ing) by KaChaRa and gang, things would have been different today.
@GK: The letters do not have make sense to you. As long as the message gets across to the intended recieptant, the purpose is served.
Samaikyandhra Funny Movie Dialogue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjGQURoQAe0
Dialogue very educational and appropriate. Is it from a real movie or just dubbed?
I don't know for sure but I guess the dialogues are dubbed.
It is from a movie called 'Maa oorilo Maha Sivudu'
Thank you Satya for telling us the movie name.
jai samaikyandhra Naresh questions to KCR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1F9elI1P0
Whoever Mr. Naresh is it is an award winning speech. Thanks VK for the link.
I don't know Mr Naresh personally but found the link on youtube. As you said already, his speech is great.
Great speech by Chakravarthy garu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucc-OAg4Gxs
Teluguwale jaago KCR bhaago.
Unfortunately all these wont have any affect on the center. Water has crossed the mark,
They will go ahead with Telangana formation with Hyderabad as its capital and It will be Deja vu for Andhra and have to build a Capital from scratch.
Its time to stop Samaikhya Andhra movement and start discussing issues at stake, like revenues, water, jobs etc.
Reddy garu. You can't be more wrong. Let us come back in three months and see, who is right. The state won't be divided.
One of the best speeches I have ever seen, Chakravarthy garu, I got an idea. Instead of resigning, what if the MPs split and form a new party. If they form a new party they will not be affected by the anti-defection law. The reasoning for this as follows:
Let us say that the total number of MPs is 540. UAP needs 271 MPs for absolute majority. If say 20 MPs from AP resign then the total falls to 520 and they will need only 261 MPs for absolute majority.
If they split and form a separate party UPA will lose 20 MPs but the absolute majority mark will still remain at 271, This way they will get more bang for their buck,
Chakravarthy garu and others what do you think about this idea?,
Can't trust the MPs. We prefer resignations. If Kavuri can be bought out, any one of the MPs is a fair game.
@Murali:
Including Sabbam Hari, there are 19 Andhra Congress MPs in Loksabha. 7 of these are ministers who will not find it easy to resign.
Even if all the 19 quit Congress, it is way below the defection law treshold. They will thus attract disqualification.
More than half of the MPs are clear on thier future. Political career of likes Kavuri, Undavalli, KC Deo, Rayapati is more or less over. Kanumoori also faces same. Some cannot win next election regardless division or not. Pallamraju, Ananta, Saipratap are some of them. Congress is very clear in its mind that it does not want Kamma leaders in near future. So Lagadapati future is uncertain. Panabaka and Jhansi abide by amma at any cost. They know how to win again. Killi is very likely to follow their path.
That leaves Purandhreswari, Harshakumar, Kotla, SPY reddy, Magunta, Chinta Mohan and Sabbam. Of these Sabbam is more or less not with congress. If I am not wrong SPY reddy can switch to YSRC.
In total only 5 or 6 MPs may actually resign.
By numbers it does not make any difference to congress and UPA government.
But leaves enough scope for BJP throw spanners in congress plan.
Will BJP lose ground Telangana if it comes in the way of AP division? Answer yes and no. Yes! because potential pro-T vote will be lost. No! because most of the pro-T vote is already captured by Cong and TRS and whatever left for BJP is insignificant.
@prabhakara rao:
Sabbam Hari has one foot in YSR party for a long time. He has not taken the plunge only because of local politics i.e. anti-Konatala.
Ananta Venkatrami Reddy is rumored to be joining YSR anytime. Saipratap & SPY Reddy are also possible candidates for the jump. A few more may follow suit.
Anyone who wants to join YSR party will take this opportunity to resign, subject to Jagan assuring candidacy in 2014. My guesstimate is around 7-8 MPs will resign.
Chakravarthy Garu,
I really pray that you are right and AP remains united
. However I see that congress is really adamant and has made several statments to the affect that "There is no going back on Telangana".
We were also under the assumption that after SKC report which debunked the tall claims of T-vadi's, congress would not dare to go ahead with Telangana decision, but look we all were wrong. So we have to play realpolitik considering the quandry Congress is in now.
Reddy,
your assumption was not wrong nor illogical. On the contrary it is the actions of congress that are rather illogical. So anything can happen. It could be even reversal of decision on division.
As far as the statements are concerned I would like to remind PM stand on the Law Minister Ashwin Kumar case. MMS said* no question of AK resigning. But we know what happened eventually.
* In typical filmi style I wanted to write PM thundred. Unfortunately everyone knows he cannot even shout.
@AMRAO garu
Thanks for the link. It is a very effictive speech by Mr. Chakravarty. Some people are thinking that formation of T is a done deal. But I can not imagine how the Centre can go forward with the bifurcation of AP as things stand now. I would say the people of Seema and Kosta effectively checkmated the Centre/Delhi rulers by expressing their wish as one voice in the last 45 days. We are witnessing historic events in the saga of Andhra Jaathi (Telugu Nation). Everybody say Jai Telugu Thalli! I do not want to see a day when I blame myself that when Telugu Thalli's integrity was under attack I was silent.
We often hear T-politicians say that, "we can be separated and live like brothers"
In my opinion, we are like conjoined twins, with 100% probability of death if separated. Hyderabad, Water & Power are some of the key common financial factors, and as mentioned by Mr. Chakravarthy "ANDHRA JATHI" is a very important cultural factor for unity.
A Visually Impaired Teacher Singing for Samaikyandhra at 'Save AP' Meeting – Studio N
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71A9w25Re3s
@Reddy: "Its time to stop Samaikhya Andhra movement and start discussing issues at stake, like revenues, water, jobs etc."
It is a reasonable suggestion. But T-vaadis say everything stays with us, you Andhras go away. So there is nothing to discuss. Like in the Sri Krishna rayabharam, when Pandavas requested a settlement with one city per brother, 5 cities in all, Duryodhana said that he would not even concede a pin point of land (soodi mopinanta sthalamu) for his cousins. Reminiscent of this, when the issue of common capital was brought up, KTR/Harish Rao said we do not concede even an inch of Hyderabad for the Andhras. [This episode was mentioned by Mr. Somireddy Chandra Mohan Reddy of TDP in a TV discussion. I am only recounting that.]
Rao garu,
Nice analogy in regards to Rayabharam. So we have to accept that T is a reality but with certain conditions attached.
As JP said congress wants to corner all of Telangana votes by showing that it has punished entire Andhra for the sake of Telangana. So this sadistic approach is guaranteed to fetch "ALL" of Telangana votes.I fear this is what is going to happen, lame duck PM and clueless Sonia will concede Hyderabad to Telangana with little regards to SA.
Reddy, I believe, in reality none of the political parties are serious about to keep the state united.**, as these parties are unable to afford the election expenses, esp. the opposition parties, but wants to come to power somehow.
This is the reason why, the opp. parties in AP whipped up the sentiment and tried to ride their fortunes on it, even though they are not sure how much of it will transform into votes, they don’t want to be a mute spectators in the game.
Now, Congress don’t want to let that advantage happen to TDP, instead they are trying to use the same sentiment for a graceful performance which otherwise would be a complete debacle.
** Even if some parties are favoring united AP, and put an end to this mess, they don;t want to be odd man out, in the total drama. They seek an unwritten agreement with other parties like alright folks, I will not talk about T, and you also don’t. X party will exit only if Y, Z, K, M also agrees to exit. But thats difficult. They don’t trust each other. So, the tamasha will continue.
2009 SA movement is a great opportunity for TDP to step back and introspect, but the arrogant Naidu failed to asses the repercussions. Now his party is bound to wipe out from both the regions.
"When the MPs told him that the Seemandhra agitation had been going on for 50 days, Digvijay reportedly brushed it aside by stating that it was a routine thing. "We have seen so many movements in the past,"
I wonder why he didn't ignore KCR's fast and the Telangana agitation along the same lines?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/No-going-back-on-Telangana-Congress/articleshow/22828137.cms
T sepratists are not interested in truths or arguements – they are on emotional high – the high that fascist prejudices give. What they need is verbal equivalent of strong slaps on face to make them see sense.
In 1930s eruope there was already some prejudice against jews in the local white population. But the white people had enough sense not to let it go out of hand and also enough culture to be ashamed of speaking about it openly. To overcome this shame and make such prejudices respectable is the great acheivement of nazism and fascism. They did this by giving this prejudice a pseduo scientific and socialist mask. They also misused history to achieve this.
Current telangana movement is exactly the same. Their is household prejudice against andhra in some telangana households – nothing remarkable about it – we have such prejudices against telangana, dalits etc. But telangana people like andhra ppl had enough culture to keep it at limits. Then came evil in form of t sepratism where all sorts of false science of "job stealing"…"catchment = irrigation potential"..false statistics came up to give these shameful prejudices respectability and what we see now is widly prejudiced people who are no longer ashamed of their pejudices.
Why am i saying all this ? we can learn lessons from how fascism is defeated in europe. It was not easy – you dont win by simply saying telangana allegations as "baseless" "false" "lies" or by reasoning how samaikyandhra is better. Far more punch is required so the shame is bought in again – atleast begin by calling it what it really is – naked fascism.
Thanks,
Kiran
What i said above also applies to seemandhra politicians . Infact i would like to see far more stronger letters and any other communication which shame them – content is not important – they are already fully aware.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqFa54YkQ58
Thought provoking opinion from a guy from Mahbub Nagar Dist.
Its was a great speech by Chakravarthy garu. I see three important potential positive outcomes out of it.
1. People who are neutral or going with the crowd in Telangana gets to question themseleves and understand the historic importance of unity.
2. People of SA in Hyderabad gets a huge morale booster as there is a clear indication that separatists wherever they are in AP will be driven out of AP.
3. THird thing is, it will reduce the intenstity of possible backlash when the progress on the CWC decision is stalled. Already I am hearing, in Karimnagar itself peolple are so fed up with Badhs and shut downs that they can not take anymore. The five year old kid is forced to got o school as a compensation, on sundays if there is a call for bandh on a week day. And they are really frustrated with that. And I am talking about the kids of the govt school teahcers who have been an imp section in the T separatist agitation.
Good job.
There are a lot of potential integrationists in the twin cities and all over Telangana. We don't hear much from them, why? A network of goons exists that would go and threaten anybody who is trying to speak against separation. This is totalitarian and similar to the tactics of Nazi and Fascist youth before the World War II. Consider the following groups in Telangana: Muslims and Marxists are outright against separation. Other groups in Telangana who are not keen on bifurcation are, Brahmins, Dalits, first and second generation Andhras (so called settlers). All these groups make up a majority of Telangana population. They are totally muted by the T-goons and can not open their mouths without repercussions.
The hatred for fellow Andhras spread by T-vadis with lies and propaganda is so pervasive, even if and when separate Telangana is formed, the settlers from Andhra region have no political future in Telangana. They won't be able to freely contest as locals in general elections and get elected to the assembly and parliament for a long time to come. Like they are all wearing letter A as a namam on their foreheads. The Centre and state governments are not sensitive to these issues.
P. Rao garu,
Good observation. With due apologies bad conclusion.
I doubt if T-goons really had such a great reach to stiffle every voice.
I would say the integrationists in పది జిల్లాల తెలంగాణ are indifferent to the situation.
They need not take a stand against division or in favor of unity. The least they should do is express their nuetrality to counter the claims of separatists.
>> I would say the integrationists in పది జిల్లాల తెలంగాణ are indifferent to the situation.
Bang on.. The integrationists in hyderabad and telangana just wish the state to be united. They personally don't loose anything, even if the state is bifurcated.
So, some of them are of opinion, why to open their mouth and get the wrath of separatists? and the rest are not sure how to register their voice? They simply cannot find a right platform to express it.
I endorse Satya's analysis and agree to prabhakara rao's suggestion.. It "appears" to integrationists in T or Hyd that they dont "loose" anything, but its not so simple. I even told the neutrals that, even retired people of T, in case of division may not smoothly get pensions as financial sitation of T will not be good. Unless the heat directly affects them they are not getting motivated. Thats why hyd as UT should be used as a temporary string. Because that will lead to a very bad financial situation for T and people get motivated for AP.
Above all of these there is no right platform to express the opinions safely. Several VMS efforts were thwarted by police itself.
People in the third world India and China have become so selfish that no morals, decency ethics etc. The irony is, the same cultures who emphasized on, insignificance of material benifits in the greater pursuit of life have succombed to it,so much that they dont know what they are doing.
The apathy is typical of Indians. We do not fight for our rights nor we execute our duties.
It is not that we do not lose any thing. We do. Every one knows that. But, typical Indian apathy, fear, selfishness, evaro Chakravarthy lanti vaaru vastaarani eduru choostaaru.
Every one knows the real effects of the separation will be felt 2 or 3 years down the lane.
When the students realize that all the promises about lakhs of government jobs are lies, who do they turn to, to express their rage?
When the govt. employees realize that all the promises of 7 promotions are lies, who do they turn to, to express their anger?
When all the farmers realize that they are not getting an extra drop of water but are being forced to pay higher electricity bills, who do they turn to, to express their frustration?
When all the land owners and farmers realize that their already sold lands can not be occupied as per law, who do they turn to, to express their disappointment?
When all the auto drivers realize that the roads are still the same and traffic is not reduced, what do they do?
Finally, when all the maids and their husbands realize that Seema Andhra people are not abandoning and leaving their houses, what do they do?
All I can say is it gets ugly. Seema Andhra home owners try to give their house to Seema Andhra people only for rent. SA people go to only SA lawyers. SA people will try to send their kids only to SA owned schools.
If some one thinks I am kidding, just look at what happens with our Muslim brotheren. Think of the scenarios in the above three examples.
AMRAO, P.Rao, Prabhakar, VK, Satya, vvk. Can you please create a new email and share it. thanx.
Chakravarthy,
First of all I congratulate you for the good work. However, I am totally convinced that the rastra vibhajan will happen. As KCR said, you do not have any "medhavulu" and you will not find anyone today. The medhavulu that the seemandhra region boasted prior to formation of AP all either migrated to different parts of world, or India or are in Hyd and their offspring is either doing private jobs or are in film industry and they do not know anything to answer back the extremely educated, wise and rogue-hatred filled concotionists. All seemandhra people are interested in watching movies and all T people are interested in watching, writing, chatting and getting involved in their movement. You cannot establish an OU or a UofH or KU or a cosmo-capital city to give birth to medhavulu at once. I have watched so many T videos continuously for 2 days and also read.
You are fighting a waste udhyamam. You will loose. If you think you really wish the good of the seemandhra people,I advise you all to give up as the T guys will not stop. The amount of hatred that KCR and his people are filling in their people has already reached a saturation point. Since you do not have medhavulu you will not be able to stop this hatred and it will ultimately ruin the lives of andhra people.
Moving forward…vision with wisdom…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gJV0MaAnj4
Great! Just check this out, guys!
Check the Vision and Wisdom.
http://zeenews.india.com/business/realestate/latest-news/naya-raipurs-first-residential-colony-dedicated_73418.html
AFTER 13 YEARS, the first residential colony of 2,665 housing units is dedicated on April 3rd, 2013!!!
Not just that! The Naya Raipur web site says by 2031, they will have world class facilities.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/president-dedicates-to-the-people-secretariat-block-in-naya-raipur/article4071627.ece
Naya Raipur is being developed as a sustainable city for administrative functions of the State; a capital that can accommodate a population of 5.6 lakh by 2031.
Oh! Just another thing.
http://www.business-standard.com/article/economy-policy/naya-raipur-hits-farmer-roadblock-111092700093_1.html
According to committee’s chief adviser Umesh Jethi, the NRDA has been selling the land acquired from the farmers at a hefty price of more than Rs 1 crore for an acre.
The farmers in the affected villages are also expecting rate at par with it (Rs 1 crore), he said. The NRDA is paying Rs 10 lakh for an acre of land.
Should I say more?
Chakravarthy garu,
I am not sure why my comment under this thread is showing as AWAITING MODERATION.
Inspirational. TJAC should watch this video and take a cue from Raipur's experience, instead of issuing threatening statements on UT status of Hyderabad.
Good vision and achievements for Chattishgarh as they wished to have separate state.
High time speratists learn from this.
RSA people do not want to separate and can live with existing a capital.
I did not see much vision and achievement there. It is a typical govt pace and thinking.
It took 13 years just to build 2665 houses. AND ONLY BY 2031, they can build a capital that can accomodate 5.6 lakh people.
AMRao garu, you didn't get the sarcasm in Prabhakar Rao gari comment.
Kaloji….never known him before….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXL3MnqpcE8
In all this time Chakravarthys VMS is only agitating and mustering support outside of T for united state. So far I have not seen VMS taking up benefit programs like TANA or TDF…who are contributing to education, health, cultural programs etc…Atleast there should be contribution to those aspects that VMS believes are the advantages of united state…
What a joke!!! Miscreants (KaChaRa and gang) has put your house on fire, so your priority will be to put off the fire, not to go and help your neighbours.
well said VVK.
NTR Sandesam (Talla Pellama movie) on telugus unity
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0twGePjSK3o
Telugu jathi manadi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvhhVB2w97M
Telangana Formation: A Dent to Democracy
When telangana region (and Hyd city) of Hyderabad state was merged with Andhra state, it was ratified at all levels as per constitutional process:
Hyderabad State Congress passed a unanimous resolution demanding merger
Unanimous resolutions were passed in Hyderabad and Secunderabad Municipal Corporations
Seven out of 10 District Congress Committees (in Telangana region) have unanimously passed resolutions for formation of AP
At the Chief Ministers conference on October 22, 1955, Andhra and Hyderabad CMs suggested immediate merger of Hyderabad and Andhra states instead of waiting for five more years as proposed by the SRC.
Based on the overwhelming support in favor of the merger, all regions became so connected to Hyderabad like branches connected to the trunk of a tree.
So, it is only fair to get the bifurcation also ratified as per constitutional process with the assent of majority.
But in this entire process, all democratic values and principles were completely ignored.
First, Central Govt constituted Sri Krishna Committee which toured all parts of Andhra Pradesh, listened to all views, saw for themselves the development across regions and submitted report.
That report reflected the true feelings of all sections of people and also established facts.
Did the Central Govt direct the state government to table it in assembly, discuss the facts and find an amicable solution? Was any attempt even made?
Thus, the only report which reflected the true feelings of all sections of people and established real facts was pushed under the carpet permanently for the fear of backlash from the separatists who knew that they would lose the argument on most of the parameters like development, Jobs, infrastructure, central investment, private sector etc, which is exactly what Sri Krishna Committee found.
When the government ignores the findings of its own committee and caves into threats & pressures, the Govt proved that it is too weak to protect the democracy.
Emboldened by this, the separatists went berserk and made mockery of the basic constitutional rights of people who did not share their sentiments and chose the dangerous path of splitting the people along regional lines.
Instead of realizing their mistake at least after seeing the barbarism that prevailed there after, the Government allowed CWC, a policy making body of party, to announce the decision on behalf of the government.
The mistakes did not stop there; they continued to allow the same party representatives to make statements without giving any heed to majority sentiments.
When majority people feel helpless in a democratic system, it will leave permanent scar in the minds of them as their voices became ‘a cry in the forest’.
Also, the hatred spread by separatists will remain in the minds of people which will be passed on to future generations.
This will be a hindrance to the progress of all regions.
We hope that at least now, the central government takes the role of a big brother instead of shoving the bitterness down the throats of majority which will dent the very foundations of our democratic system and set up a bad precedence where vested interests think they can get what they want by raking up emotions and spreading hatred which will ultimately pose problems to our national integrity and threaten the constitutional rights of people.
ASAP, USA (Association for Samaikya Andhra Pradesh, USA)
Telangana: An Untold Truth About Secunderabad
We keep telling Pro-Telangana guys that all regions were part of Hyderabad state for 250 years until Nizam leased/ceded Coastal & Seema regions to British towards the end of 18th century and the revenue from diamond mines in Coastal & Seema is instrumental in the development of Hyderabad.
But they don't listen.
They very conveniently consider the history only from the beginning of the 19th century during which time Coastal & Seema were under British instead of Nizam's Hyd state.
Hence, as per them Coastal & Seema have no right on Hyderabad.
If that is the case, as per their own logic, they have no right on Secunderabad. Why? Here is the untold truth.
Secunderabad was founded in 1806AD by British and was directly developed & administered directly by British with revenues from Coastal & Seema areas and not under Nizam's Hyderabad state.
So, as per pro-Telangana groups own argument, they also have no right on something that was never under Nizam's Hyderabad state.
Friends, Pro-Telangana groups want to hide not just developmental figures but many untold truths like this from people. That's why they dread any meaningful discussions and foil them with threats and violence. But in the end, truth always prevails.
ASAP, USA (Association for Samaikya Andhra Pradesh, USA)
Nice to know that the people of Seema Andhra can make Secunderabad as their capital
@Bhanu,
Thats not going to happen. The intellectuals u r referring to r not normal intellectuals. They are a poorer version of unskilled naxalites who believe that brainwashing of people gives some results. (Funny thing is they themselsves dont know that they are extremists).
Its highly likely that a cabinet note will be placed with expanded hyd as permanent joint capital city with a choice to build separate economic districts if they want for both SA and T. Govt might give some monitory support for this. President will send a draft to AP assembly for their view. Meanwhile agitation in T also will start but will fail to gain enough strength as T people can no longer support the stubborness of separatists. Not many T MLA's can support this bill as hyd has become neutral.. Bill will fail. After that everybody can guess what else can happen.
Politically cong might ask KCR to cotinue to speak some nonsense and use TRS to gain as many no of seats as possible in T with YSR on the other side. This is the contingency plan of cong which they never liked, but will have to go with. Not all cong MLA's can jump and work under KCR until 2014.TRS might win 40-50 seats in 2014. Because cong tried for T it might get around 8-10 MP seats those who have been very vocal in recent years.
Chandra you are under-estimating them and taking it easy. The easy-going under-estimating behavior of us has brought us to this juncture. Yes, there are naxals involved in this fraud movement but there are crooked intellectuals also involved, there are innocent also involved who just follow their leaders blindly and there are outraged fresh-blooded students involved who will never try to understand the truth, the reality of history and the truth behind the fraud agitation. You are seeing it only from the political angle but there are factors like jealousy towards one culture and mind-boggling hatred that is being spread in the name of pride. All this will lead to even more moral and historical distortion even if the separation does not happen. As long as every video, every blog, every facebook page, every book, every channel (not the worthless tv9, tv5, abn etc channels that do not have the guts to counter t-news, 10tv, cvr, hmtv, rajnews, musitv, v6, etelanganatv. there is a need for real powerful channels in every city of seemandhra –which will be a dream never come true) , every newspaper they publish is not countered by the seemandhras, all will be unhappy for them forever. They are totally ruined by the worlds worst movement built completely on the platform of lies. The developmental progress and growth that tookplace in Telangana cannot be compared with the 1969 or 1972 time. The separation of the state is completely immoral. Rather than competing with the seemandhra people in jobs, they have divided the telugu people in every terms in order to achieve their goal. Only a latur-style earthquake in the entire ap will set these fellows right again. God, please do it.
Things are moving (may be slowly than required) in that direction. See Jonnavithula countering of KCR's rubbish talk about Andhras, telugu talli etc
http://www.ap7am.com/lv-123376-discussion-with-jonnavithula-ramalingeswara-rao-on-telangana-cultural-war.html
The telangana agitation propaganda TV channels are flooding youtube with false information and this has to be countered by the other telugu TV channels.
M. Satyanaraya Rao (MSR) said in MuraliKrishna's encounter on TV9 that current agitation in telangana is not comparable with that in 1969 and, unlike before 1969, currently there is no discrminiation against telangana. (http://www.ap7am.com/telugu-videos-1-all-videos.html).
Bhanu,
lord shiva was on long leave. Recently he resumed duties at Uttarkhand. He may take up some more soon. But in kaliyugam his task is larger than himself.
BTW, I feel your assesment of TV channels is not that right. Everyone made up their made to live in Telangana state. All debates are only to spread the hatred further. Maybe only CVR news conducting some better debates.
@Chandra: "It's highly likely that a cabinet note will be placed with expanded hyd as permanent joint capital city with a choice to build separate economic districts if they want for both SA and T."
If the Centre is adament in going ahead with the division of AP the following should be considered. I am not in favor of leaving Hyderabad entirely to the T-vaadis. A city meant for 100% of AP citizens will be gifted to 40% of the population. It is unfair to the rest of the 60%. But the Telugu people (both sides) should not lose the city to UT either. You are conceding the control of the city to the Central rulers for nothing. May be a Berlin model should be considered. I am looking at an old map of Germany. Berlin city is located in the heart of East Germany, very much like Hyderabad in the heart of Telangana. But they divided the city between East and West Germany after WW II. Hyderabad could be divided on a 60: 40 basis permanently. Then SA can have a separate capital with legislature in the SA region and may be High Court in Hyderabad. The 60% of the industrial sector in Hyderabad remains with the SA. The new AP will exist in two geographical pieces; plenty examples exist for states in non-contigues parts. So that is not anything new. This kind of division of land should not pain anybody. Hyderabad was found and developed in the last 400 years or so. For any impartial observer it is clear that the contribution of SA people to its growth was at least 60% through out these 400 years.
One thing, the SA region should be properly compensated in any division of the state. Number two, the greedy T-vaadis should not be rewarded with a bounty that is Hyderabad city at the cost of SA.
http://www.greatandhra.com/articles/special-articles/telangana-an-untold-truth-about-secunderabad-49960.html
Wondering what problems the wifes of ministers forsee, surprisingly they do not want to say to the media what it is…whom are they representing, just curious.
They explained the problems we face if state gets bifurcated and they are representing the people who are against AP bifurcation.
Medhaavulu. Intellectuals.
Justice Sudharshan Reddy is a Medhaavi. Retired Justice. Currently Lokayukta of Goa.
http://epaper.sakshi.com/apnews/Hyderabad-Main_Edition/23092013/2
Look at this news item. He talks of war and wounds, like a student and not a Justice.
He says there are no words like Telugu Talli.
1. Maa Telugu talliki song was written in 1942. Nothing to do with Telangana.
2. http://www.pressacademyarchives.ap.nic.in/Newspaper.asp
Go to Andhra Patrika dated 04/06/1914, Page 8, 1st column and scroll down.
It is written : Andhra maataki santasam galigimpagala suputrudokkaru …
Jonnavithula discussed in detail about tellu talli in yesterday's TV programme
http://www.ap7am.com/lv-123376-discussion-with-jonnavithula-ramalingeswara-rao-on-telangana-cultural-war.html
Desapathi Srinivas was decent while expressing his opinion. What else can we expect from Rasamayi Balkishan?
They want to erase 1000+ years of history and replace it with 100 year old history. It is up to the people of Telangana to decide.
AMRao garu, These guys are beyond repair. They go any extent to shamelessly defend their acts. Desapathi is no good. He made a continuous effort to pull Jonnavittula into his favorite zone. Thats where all the nicety came. To his bad luck, Jonnavittula stick to his point, which is why trolled in this TRS chamcha Rasamayi Balakishan to vent his frustration.
I don't understand all this hype around batukamma. I read many Golconda Patrika archives but did not come across any special mentioning of the festival forget about writing special features.
To my knowledge, not even poets like Dasarathi or Kaloji (some doubt) wrote any poetry on her, if they want to highlight the distinct identity of telangana.
AFAIK, the festival is mostly limited to tribals in telangana area and in some of the backward castes. I mean no belittling. But giving it a color of 'famously' celebrated T festival is carried with vested interests but not coz of any love towards the festival/ Goddess.
AMRao please read,
Telangana dream sours
Deccan Chronicle, February 13th, 2010
By Kancha Ilaiah
The movement for Telangana has now touched a peak. It has also become a movement with unique characteristics. Masses belonging to all walks of life have come out to the streets with their cultural symbols. We can see dalit-Bahujans beating drums and dholaks, the Other Backward Classes (OBCs) with their ploughshares and bullock carts, shepherds with their flock, toddy tappers with their moku (rope assembly used to climb palm trees) and muttadu (the belt they wear to keep their hatchet) and stone-breakers with their own iron artefacts.
The festive game of Bathukamma (a women's festival celebrated mainly during Dasara, pro-Telangana activists are performing the Bathukamma on the highways as a form of protest and to highlight their Telangana identity) was also enacted. It was being projected as a cultural symbol.
During the age of Nizam, Bathukamma used to be enacted by the Shudras — mostly OBCs. Dalits were not allowed to participate as they were seen as pollutants even by the OBCs of lower order. And the upper caste women — particularly Brahmins, Komatis, Reddys and Velamas — would not participate as it was seen as a Shudra festive game. They thought it was below their dignity.
Now suddenly some Dorasanlu (women of dominant castes) went to this play as a symbol of the agitation. Is it for Telangana or for power?
The most interesting thing is that while the lower castes are using their cultural symbols to achieve a separate Telangana, the members of former feudal families are playing the politics of agitation. We also see a surprising unity between some Reddy and Velama political lords.
The whole attempt by these two caste forces is to control the political joint action committee (JAC) that is driving the Telangana agitation. Some academicians have also been drawn in to mediate between those two otherwise politically warring castes.
It is as if the stereotype of future Telangana is being played out — "We will play politics and you should play Dhoom Dham, Bathukamma and drums".
And some of these leaders are collecting huge amounts of money, mostly to build their family's "political economy" while distributing pittance to ring leaders from the lower castes.
As the balladeer Gaddar rightly says "kanche kaada nuvvu, collection kaada neenu" (you should protect the fields and I will reap the crops). But some intellectuals keep on saying, "Let us not talk about any immorality — after all to achieve Telangana such small things need to be done".
The most surprising aspect in the movement is the entry of the Maoist upper caste elements in this "more collection, less distribution" model of political economy.
In the name of achieving Telangana all ideological battles have been set aside. One upper caste Maoist intellectual went to the extent of saying that the JACs from village upwards were working like "Maoist communes".
What this really means is that the sons — even some daughters — of upper caste landlords have come back to the villages to head and lead the JACs by "usurping" the legitimate village sarpanchs. Now Telangana has come under the raj of the upper caste JACs.
Some former Maoist activists have become leaders of the Telangana Rashtra Samiti and are praising their leader for conducting Yajnas, Yagas and Kratus in the party office. He also walks around with a huge Bal Thackeray type bottu (tilak) on the forehead and they seem to be enjoying the neo saffron style of the leader.
But the Muslims are scared of these visuals and the Bharatiya Janata Party probably sees a new rival in the region if it becomes a state.
The emergence of the Shiv Sena or of Maharashtra Navnirman Sena kind of political entity in the region does not seem to be a problem for the Maoists and they too seem to think that there is just one point agenda — we must achieve Telangana and hand over power to "our people".
What really worries all of them is the student movement mainly headed by the dalit-Bahujan youth. This has become an inconvenient factor. There is competition to buy them off or to make them foot soldiers.
There is a resistance from the students but one does not know for how long the youth can sustain that resistance.
We also see the political JAC compromising with Centre and welcoming the Srikrishna Committee without it making any reference to Telangana state formation. Mr K. Jana Reddy welcomes the committee and K. Chandrasekhar Rao approves it in silence. The Telugu Desam keeps playing the double game quite skillfully. The Union home minister, Mr P. Chidambaram, is doing some arm-twisting as he has a clear understanding about "the unholy alliance between Maoists and money collectors".
After reading that article, here are more facts. Deshapathi is of Low BC caste (that is why he always continuously barks about Bathkamma) whose festival it was originally. Rasamayi Balakishan is of Scheduled Caste (which was not allowed to celebrate the festival; Since Rasamayi did not go to Osmania for studies he does not know how the high BC, SC and ST students oppose the festival when Kavitha of jagruthi tried to force it on them, Later the poor OU SCs, STs and High BC students were bought out by the goondas). Poor Rasamayi balladeering for his small dora. Dora nee banchan.
Ignore that guy Kancha ilaiah. He is totally bankrupt of any proudctive thinking and any good to society. He only want to bring in caste factor in all his arguments and paint history as nothing but atrocities of upper castes on lower caste. The only thing he knows is to bring in caste in every argument. I dont suscribe to his views wether in factour of T or against T. He is a national waste
You are afraid of Kancha Ilaiah. He talks more truth than KCR. If he is waste, he would have gotten fired from the world class osmania long back.
Prof. Ilaiah brings caste factor in all his arguments just like telangana separatists bring regionalism in all their arguments. So Prof. is perferct to counter telangana separatists.
Over the last 1000+ years the maps of may states and countries have changed.
Maps can change but the true history will not change in the eyes of God.
GK, maps changed for a reason. 'A' changed, so lets change B, C, …Z is not a reason. The map of India too changed many times, but for a reason.
There is no reason to change AP map. You know, lies is not a reason.
Bhanu, and P Rao,
I gree with your comments. But The most likely scenario which I said, Hyd becoming neutral will not be likabale to both sides. Integrationists in seema-andhra will reduce the intensity and separatists in T wont be motivated to come on to streets any further as they are fed up.. But APNGO's will continue their strike EVEN IF hyd is made neutral and TNGO's will start another Sakal janula samme. Govt of AP will come standstill. No other option than president rule until 2014 elections. Then GOI says, since there is a president rule the issue can not be taken further unless normalcy comes back as in democracy opinion of all the sections of the people is important. Thats a good one for the citizens of AP.
Cong can claim solidly that it introduced a cabnet note as promised and is committed for T.
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No matter what the seemandhras will loose because they do not have intellectuals that can handle rogues of all walks of life. The only chelasani who calls himself medhavi (this word they should not use) is useless. Have you watched his video in which he begs for Bhadrachalam. When something is yours rightfully, you should not beg but go get it. Thats it.
Same holds with Hyd. Both regions integrated after it was agreed by both parties, therefore if they say they are forced, you be strong. Since you are not read, not strong and worldly, you will loose. That is it.
Same holds with development in T. It has developed 1 billion times and whereas the rest of Andhra was ignored after integration. If you know the history and read you can handle them, otherwise wear bangles and accept for division. That is it.
Do you think if the seemandhras keep silence, or be nice or do more developement in their region, they will be nice to seemandhra. No way whatever you do for them, they will remain rogue separatists. Haven't the seemandhras done so much developement in their region since late 1800s (who knows history, only the t intellectuals but they will not agree because the seemandhras are fools), but what happened, they are fu__ked for being nice. The seemandhras wastefully fighting rogues, dictators, fundamentalists, fanatics. Seemandhras are born to lose. They are shameless people who will sit at home watching movies. You post a movie on youtube, you will get 1000 hits in 10 mins from seemandhras. You post a video with the title "kcr calls seemandhras pigs", 1000 hits from Ts with 50 likes in 10 mins. You post a video with the title "seemandhras call deshapathi pig", 1000 hits from Ts with 100 dislikes in 10 mins. That is the movement. I will tell another reality.
Saw Mr Nallamotu on TV9(probably Vjwd meeting). He is raising up by the day. After this whole drama ends, I hope he would benefit from all the recent name and fame he obtained. But I only wish is that he would atleast the start a social service organization and use all the contacts he had developed…
And he will open a college where he will teach t students iit classes and then in turn he will get spit in the face after they become magnets, just as it happened today with the seemandhras. And you GK will still be jealous with chakravarthy's success even after seeing chakravarthy's t students spit in his face. Just as what KTR did to people of Seemandhra where he studied.
GK, Don't worry about Chakravarthy garu. His raise & fame is good for telangana, unlike the raise of 'cheedapurugulu' in T udyamam,.
Thanks Sonia for puking on Visalandhra
Shinde Preparation For Telangana Note Over View .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30hpHfECZ3I
Bhanu,
I am not that worried about hate in T region. It will correct itself as soon as people in Telangana see sense. And this will happen if the state remain united through the process. But if state divides then then all bets are off and hate may simmer for generations.
And I met chalasani a few years back – he was a waste fellow then. Dont know if he changed now. He used to argue for separate kostha state with a good package then,
Thanks,
Kiran
Kiran, you think so. Keep dreaming. I was taught that Rogues remain Rogue no matter what.
Rogue means rogue anywhere, let it be T or A.
Gentlemen,
Here you can listen to field expert and a social worker who is originally from SA…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3MJeeuYGf4
For some leaders the reality is sinking in…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a62qTAsvgig
For those who are bullish in associating hate with T-agitation…
can understand the deeper anguish behind the tank-bund incident…
Moving forward, more inclusive development is what is needed in all regions…
GK,
So the agitators destroyed because they were installed by an Andhra leader, thats all??
Do the Telangana people have even an ounce of testosterone to go to old city of Hyderabad and lay hand on the icons built by the Nizam and his predessors?
Can they show the same enthusiasm and destroy lets say, Charminar or Mecca Masjid or even the railway station and promise to build another one in their place?
Unlike the docile Andhras, Owaisi and his stormtroopers would have made a mincemeat of the agitators, had they tried such antics and would have kissed Telangana's ass goodbye for once and for all.
Nicompoop agitators impotence was so glaringly evident when they did not even enter the old city to enforce a bandh while rest of hyderabad/secunderabad were in a complete shutdown while agitation was its peak.
Oh but wait, Nizam is highly regarded by these fuedal leaders, because he built such magnificient infrastructure that was the envy of the world (albeit by sucking the blood of Telangana peasants), so his cultural symbols are sacrosanct while their Andhra counterparts icons are a grisly reminder of their subjugation and cultural superiority.
One thing is for sure, Hyderabad will not be the same again, the multicultural, multilingual , laidback always welcoming city that has been a dream destination for people in every corner of (former) Andhra Pradesh. Now every non-Telangana person will be looter, cheater and an outsider whose ancestors took advantage of the innocent, gullible Telangana denizens and made Hyderabad their illegal abode. Thanks to one stalwart who started it all, no not KCR or YSR but our esteemed Prof Kothapalli Jayashankar.
GK,
a sincere question. Do you justify destruction, of any degree on anything, to vent ones anguish?
The link did not get in…here it is…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeofYG5wqrI&feature=endscreen
What is this hypocrite GK. You tell me not to about "emotional" things. Why are you posting hypocrite?
Bhanu,
Rogues are a minority anywhere including telangana. I am talking about ordinary telangana folks who pretend about a fake "anguish" while actually reliving despicable prejudices. They will just get over it pretty soon as long as we keep state united.
THanks,
Kiran
Truth and clarity about the worlds biggest fraud movt.
1. Our Naizam T people speak Telugu and deny that they speak a different language.
2. We keep calling yasa as bhasha. Deshapathi says maa bhasha. How foolish?
3. Warangal was called Andhranagari, Suravaram called the whole region Andhra. CNR always called Andhra. Now the Naizam T people are taught to hate the word Andhra. How silly. Satavahanas were Andhras. Our Nizam T people are taught to claim Satavahanas but hate Andhras. hahaha cheapest lie.
4. Late Dasarathi said Asalandhra ku telangana paryayam kaada? meaning aren't Andhra and Telangana synonyms.
5. When Naizam was ruling, the entire Telugu region was called Telang. Even Dasarathi junior said that in his latest interview.
6. KCR is Velama and Velama is a caste that originated in Guntur where velanadu exists. This is the oldest definition of velama. KTR, son of KCR studied in Guntur Vignan. KCRs grandparents come were born in Vizianagaram.
7. Hyd city was the only development during Nizam time but now people lie saying Nizam developed entire region. Then why did we do Sayudha Poratam against doralu and nizam. If we lie, that means we do not honor the people who died for that movt. Hyd city was developed to cater muslim population, some doras benefitted. I studied in one of schools. Our school has photos from 1850 and not a single local studied the schools until 1960. You can find the same in every school in the naizam region. For the OU students who are brainwashed to hate and lie, you should do this first, open your college album and registers and count the number of locals. It will be 1%. We locals were only coolies that built Osmania and other buildings.
8. The literacy of Naizam T region was 3% prior to integration and now it is 65% excluding Hyd. The literacy of Seemandhra was 33% prior to integration and now it is 66%.
9. Urdu was the official language of the region. Nizam was responsible for the cultural bashing. Now we are hating our own brothers in Andhra, though they did so much for us. Krishna Dist's Madapati was the leader of Andhra Mahasabha in Naizam T, Nellore's Puchalapalli Sundarayya lead the Communist Party (Comrade and Leader of the Telangana Rebellion against the Feudal Landlords and Razakars and Nizam). ECL was the brain child of A.S.Rao of Andhra. Hitech City was the brainchild of Naidu of Andhra. They are visionaries and some people in our Naizam region are just jealous and so this movt started by brainwashing people with hatred.
10. NTR was the first person to uplift the BCs, SCs and STs of the Naizam region by abolishing Patel/Patwari system (made the deshpandes, deshmukhs, patwaris) powerless at the village level as they were suppressing the lower castes. Listen to lectures at the BR Ambedkar Open Univ and you will know how some people are grateful to NTR.
11. Bathkamma was never celebrated in Hyd or elsewhere except for a town in warangal or until a decade or even less back. Only Bonalu was performed and the procession was segrated by various caste groups, malas conducting their bonalu, madigas conducted theirs, kuramas conducted theirs etc.
12. Bathkamma belongs to Low BCs and now used for politics. Telangana Thalli is nothing but Low BC goddess as she carries Bathkamma in her hand. Our Naizam T people wanted to do a movt and began it with a casteist goddess who opposed SCs and STs to celebrate the festival.
13. Deshapathi calls Sankranthi as Andhra festival. Deshpathi says Lord Rama suppressed them. How casteist can he get?
14. Bhadrachalam belongs to Andhra. Huzurnagar, Aswaraopet, Munagala, part of Nagarjunasagar belong to Andhra.
15. Nizam became the world's richest person by mining in Andhra. 13 of the world's 20 greatest diamonds were mined from Andhra.
You did not get any of the very basics of the T-agitation….just harping on things that give you emotional feelings….
Here are the basis…Water, Jobs and political/economical imbalance from day 1.
GK, you are very funny you think. Your whole agitation is only emotional lies, everyday it is a nonsense about language, culture etc. SKC already took care of your water, jobs and political/economical crying. Keep crying.
GK, dont talk. If you can post your list for my list, as answers we will see and know your emotional truth..
This can be avoided people….have wisdom…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXDRKy1dKZA
These lies and hatred could have stopped for people of Seemandhra if the national leaders and other state leaders and educated people debated the lies that were spread in the name of Separate State. But no one cares about the others state as every state is a country in India. There are so many lies and only the national leaders like sonia etc could have shown some responsibility to educate the people what is truth and why the lies are spreading. Politics and Nepotism. It is very unfortunate when I think about the Brahmin community of Seemandhra. They have kept quiet. A 1000-1600 agraharam is built by the seemandhra brahmins in Hyd but the wise community did not care to educate people. The Hyd seemandhra people are afraid or politically motivated for their individual growth. Whereas the Naizam T people all over the world are very vocal in spreading the lies. I have my own fears that the same thing that happened on Tank Bund will happen in various ways in Naizam T.
The fact that the Center has enouraged the T movement and stage-managed the events have been mentioned on this blog a few times. Like you said the Delhi leaders could have just asked the T-vaadis to stop the lies but they are the instigators.
Intha jaruguthunna, TV9 gaadu Phone Kottu Cheera Pattu (watched by seemandhra people) program where as V6 makes documentary on Andhrollu idhi andhrollu adhi (watched by T people). That is the difference.
Chakravarthy:
Your comments on Ashok Babu's speech please. Is this the visalandhra that you are fighting for?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSMnIpmXEUo
Here is the clarification given by Ashok Babu for that speech
http://www.ap7am.com/lv-123729-hyderabad-belongs-to-both-telangana-and-seemandhra-ashok-babu.html
I didn't find any thing objectionable in the speech. Which part in the speech you find objectionable?
Here is the full speech, which telangana propagonda channel V6 showed in bits and pieces to support its biased analysis.
http://www.ap7am.com/lv-123436-ashok-babus-aggressive-speech-at-hindupur.html
Jai Go, Before asking Chakravarthy's response, please express your opinion.
Some Telangana people are saying that they cant simply live together with Andhras. Then why do you want Hyderabad which is so full of Andhras? Talk about what Hyderabad is today, nobody cares what it was 60 years ago.
Coming to Vishalandra, the methods and paths may be different, but everything Samaikyavadis are doing is ultimately for Vishalandra.
They want Hyderabad so that slowly but steadily they can drive them away.
They want Hyderabad so that slowly but steadily they can drive Andhras away.